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Does the Record companies still pays royalties to the jackson5/jacksons?

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Does the jacksons get paid when a song of theirs is used in commericals or movies just curious about that and can they still get paid by motown and epic when they songs get radio airplay or no but i figured as a group they sold lots of records not to have royalty check coming to them and jermaine sold over 30 million records by himself
just curious about that
 
raz2911 said:
I suppose so, why wouldn't they ??
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i was wondering b/c someone was saying all profits goes to the CEO of the company and artists actually had to sue for their royalties
 
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wow that is so wrong if its true, a CEO who had nothing to do with the singing, writting or production of the material getting all the money, while the people who actually made the song what it is gets nothing !!
 
Motown have all rights to the Jackson 5 name. I'm pretty sure the Jacksons get very little in royalties for J5 stuff.
The Jacksons stuff is different. They moved to CBS because of Motown not letting them be involved much (at all?) in the writing process of their songs. After moving to CBS they were allowed to write songs. So, they get a lot more in royalties from Jacksons material than J5.
 
I dont think so,most if not all of J5 songs at motown was written by berry gordy and the professional songwriters in motown.Royalties are only paid to the songwriters and artist/musicians who performed the songs dont receive any royalties though the artists are fighting for some compensation now and have been campaigning for support in washington.
 
dupsy said:
I dont think so,most if not all of J5 songs at motown was written by berry gordy and the professional songwriters in motown.Royalties are only paid to the songwriters and artist/musicians who performed the songs dont receive any royalties though the artists are fighting for some compensation now and have been campaigning for support in washington.
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Maybe I'm wrong but I remember that artists receive royalties. However, the amount is small. The songwriters earn more.
 
Performers receive royalties too. Michael sued in 2003 over Jackson 5 royalties, but I don't know the outcome of the case. Here's an excerpt from a Billboard story (from 2003):

Michael Jackson has filed suit against Motown Records and parent Universal Music Group (UMG) in an attempt to obtain rights to all masters of material he recorded for the label from 1969-76, Billboard Bulletin reports.

The 10-count suit, filed Thursday in Los Angeles Superior Court, claims that under a 1980 agreement, Motown agreed to pay royalties to Jackson on the distribution of select pre-1976 material, including solo and Jackson 5 recordings, as well as any "best-ofs" or compilations of unreleased tracks.

Jackson says UMG has since released such albums and licensed songs commercially without his consent. He claims the label failed to provide him "with a single accounting" and has not paid him "a single dollar in royalties."

The artist is seeking to terminate the 1980 contract and all other recording agreements with Motown, and seeks to reclaim "his right, title and interest in" all of his master recordings and compositions with the label. A UMG spokesperson declined comment.
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Story here: http://www.billboard.com/news/jacks...universal-over-motown-royalties-1885834.story
 
The brothers make nothing from Motown, just like none of the other Motown acts do. The J5 had the same crappy contracts that all of the rest had. Stevie Wonder managed to get a good deal when he turned 21, because he threatened to leave after his earlier contract expired when he became of age. Even later acts like Teena Marie & Rick James had problems with Motown paying them. Berry Gordy is the only one who made money. If you notice, Stevie is the only act who never left Motown. Marvin Gaye discovered Maze in the early 70s. Marvin got them a deal with Capitol Records instead of taking them to his own label, lol.
 
Michael and his brothers did several albums outside Motown, e.g. Destiny and Triumph, which they wrote and produce themselves and were bigger sellers than the motown albums.

The Jacksons
Goin' Places
Destiny
Triumph
Jacksons live
Victory
2300 JS
The Essentials

Those albums really showcased the Jackson brother as amazing songwritters and producers.
 
MJStorm said:
Maybe I'm wrong but I remember that artists receive royalties. However, the amount is small. The songwriters earn more.
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Sorry,I didnt make myself clear.The artists receive royalties from record companies only though Motown stiffed their acts,even Diana Ross left motown with just $166000 after so many years and Michael was not happy with his dad for signing the lousy motown contracts[said joe signed their life away or something like that cant remember the exact quote].

It's only songwriters who receive royalties for use of the songs on radio,movies etc and this is where most of the money is made .I was actually in washington when Dionne Warwick and some other artist came to lobby members of the congress regarding artist royalties on radio and was surprised to find out artist were not compensated for radioplay unless they wrote the songs.
 
The Jacksons, Michael, Jackie, Tito, Marlon & Randy should make a very good income from there Jacksons albums, especially from the Destiny, Triumph, Live and Victory albums which I presume are the biggest selling Jacksons albums which they all have song writing credits on.

Michael had song writing credits as a solo writer/composer on Blues Away and co-writing credits with Tito on Style Of Life which are both on The Jacksons (1976) self-titled debute Epic album. On there second Epic album Goin Places (1977), Michael, Jackie, Tito, Marlon & Randy share songwriting/composing credits on there two songs on the album Different Kind Of Lady and Do What You Wanna. Both of these albums didn't sell very well, and these albums and songs are manly only well known to hardcore Michael Jackson/ The Jacksons fans. So I don't think Michael and his brothers will earn huge royalties from these albums and the 4 songs they wrote for them.

Randy gets co-writing credit with Michael for Shake Your Body (Down To The Ground), and Jackie has co-writing credit with Michael for Can You Feel It. Both of these songs are The Jacksons biggest hits/classics (I guess in the UK it's Blame It on The Boogie, that's developed a huge popularity over the last 21yrs). These songs are often sampled by other artists, or covered, and often appear on Various Artists compilation albums. So I think both Jackie and Randy earn a lot of money from each of the songs they co-wrote with Michael, and enough for them both not to have to work due to the popularity of these two songs.

Jermaine didn't join The Jacksons until the Victory album in 1984, so he will only get royalties from the Victory album (I think the biggest selling Jacksons album ?) and 2300 Jackson Street (The Jacksons without Michael & Marlon, with Michael only appearing on the song 2300 Jackson Street), which didn't sell very well.
 
The Jacksons, Michael, Jackie, Tito, Marlon & Randy should make a very good income from there Jacksons albums, especially from the Destiny, Triumph, Live and Victory albums which I presume are the biggest selling Jacksons albums which they all have song writing credits on.
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realistly though what sort of money are we talking about cause its not like those albums sell anything these days and havnt for many years. so u have royalties from airplay etc.re the motown years havnt read that article that was posted re mj sueing years back but think it was mentioned at the time that mj was only getting money for re releases released after somemthing like the early 80's and nothing b4. it was some crappy deal hence the lawsuit. so heck knows if they get anything for the j5 days. but then again its not like they sell much anyway and split between 5 isnt going to add upto much anyway
 
^^^^It doesn't matter if the records don't sell. There's a lot of money in sampling and liscensing songs to movies, TV shows, commercials, video games, etc. Since they're the writers of some of the Epic material and own the publishing, they get a cut.
 
DuranDuran said:
^^^^It doesn't matter if the records don't sell. There's a lot of money in sampling and liscensing songs to movies, TV shows, commercials, video games, etc. Since they're the writers of some of the Epic material and own the publishing, they get a cut.
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This is what I mean about Michael's brothers making a good income from The Jacksons albums, especially Jackie and Randy.

Randy will even get some royalties from his half of the co-writing Shake Your Body (Down To The Ground), from the segment of the song that was used on the movie Michael Jackson's This Is It.
 
DuranDuran said:
^^^^It doesn't matter if the records don't sell. There's a lot of money in sampling and liscensing songs to movies, TV shows, commercials, video games, etc. Since they're the writers of some of the Epic material and own the publishing, they get a cut.
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yeah i mentioned that along with airplay etc. but still thats hardly gonna be much. you hardly see the songs all over commericals etc
 
elusive moonwalker said:
yeah i mentioned that along with airplay etc. but still thats hardly gonna be much. you hardly see the songs all over commericals etc
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But the songs are sampled quite a bit in rap tunes. I've heard a lot of songs using Jackie yelling "Can you feel it!" from the live album. If the song that uses the sample sells a lot, the songwriter makes big money like Rick James did when MC Hammer used Superfreak. Remakes also generate money. I've heard the Jacksons tunes on TV shows like the Bernie Mac Show. As long as the show is rerun, the tune is played and the songwriters get paid. Any DVD sales of such shows and in movies that uses the songs, they get paid. Andrew Ridgeley lives off of royalties from Wham! songs, mainly Careless Whisper which he co-wrote with George Michael. He's not in show business anymore and doesn't really work. James Brown was broke in the early 80s, but when rappers started sampling his music, he became a millionaire again.
 
In France, several times by week we can hear 'Don't stop 'til you get enough' when the national lottery is coming ! it was told that they paid a great deal to be allowed to use it -
 
AllForLove said:
In France, several times by week we can hear 'Don't stop 'til you get enough' when the national lottery is coming ! it was told that they paid a great deal to be allowed to use it -
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That song has nothing to do with The Jacksons/J5 other than Randy playing bongos on it. :p
 
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