Describes our state so well-'Those “Crazy MJ Fans:” Maybe we should listen?

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This is so absolutely true of those of us who have been warriors in Michael's Army of Love fighting alongside him with all our might, giving it our all, doing the best to protect him... we will NOT give up the fight, and we 'will' win it, for him, for us and for all the goodness he continues to stand for.

Pl. do visit the site and leave a comment to thank the writer for understanding us and our immeasurable pain, grief, anger, sorrow, agony as we live with all of it, missing him and loving him more with every passing day...


Those “Crazy MJ Fans:” Maybe we should listen?

-Rev. Barbara Kauffmann


The letters come from all over the world—Canada, Indonesia, Greece, Italy, France, Belgium, Japan, Germany, Africa, Romania, Viet Nam… people everywhere are grieving Michael. Many have had visions, visitations and messages from him after his death. Some are doing work on his behalf and some are reclaiming his legacy. All of them understand on a very deep level that this man was special.

Michael’s death had an impact on fans, admirers and even people on the outer orbits of anything Michael. Many have asked why they have been so impacted by this singular event and this singular individual. The short answer is that Michael awakened many on the planet before his death and his death itself awakened many more. People who have never before been interested, are researching him; many who have not considered themselves talented are now finding their inner artist; and many thousands more are doing humanitarian work around this globe in Michael’s name—“Michaeling” by donating to charities, organizing fund raisers, holding conferences and gifting needy children and vulnerable others. They are taking Michael’s “you can change the world” literally and applying it to their lives and work. They are making Michael proud. While they feel a little better, the personal grief remains intense.

What they often don’t understand is how and why their grief is so gritty and so deep. Some of these Michael people are new advocates never having been fans or listened to his music. Some are long time fans who have followed Michael’s career since the days of the Jackson Five. But all have in common their admiration and affection for Michael Jackson.
Many of them have told me they are surprised by the impact Michael’s passing had on them—equivalent to a magnitude 7 or 8 earthquake on the Richter Scale. The ones who didn’t know Michael, didn’t listen to his music are really puzzled how affected they are by his loss. Some of them have experienced this grief as they would have a close loved one yet they never knew him before. Some didn’t know how deeply they could hurt. Some feel as if his leaving awakened something in them. It did. Many embarked on a personal spiritual journey begun by an emergency that his death triggered. Janet Jackson said “To you Michael was an Icon; to us Michael was family.” While that is technically true if measured by flesh and blood, Michael was the lifeline of many. He was the one voice of sanity in a world gripped by so much insanity. For many, he was their hope, their confidante, their role model, their leader or guru. He represented the way out or the way forward. He was someone who came from nothing and became something larger than life. Michael’s voice soothed. His lyrics put many of their hopes, thoughts and prayers into words. For some, he represented their light in a world that was otherwise hopelessly dark.

When Michael Jackson left this planet he took his immediate light with him. That light was anchored here for 50 years and its sudden withdrawal left people reeling and feeling empty. Their tears were and are spontaneous, their sorrow is suffocating. Many not only did not know him before, but they did not know their own spectrum of feelings before.
The seminal work by Elizabeth Kubler-Ross on Death and Dying identified a roadmap of what the normal grieving process looks like. That first work has been expanded upon since it was first introduced and there are many models. Nobody follows the predicted path exactly, and the layers of grieving can mingle and be revisited at any stage. The progression of grief usually follows the path of: Initial shock, denial, pain, guilt, anger, bargaining, depression, reflection, loneliness, working through, reconstruction, acceptance, and hope. When an individual works through sufficient grief, there may be a reprieve period where feelings are muted and the process is not linear but cyclic.
In the case of Michael Jackson the normal process of grieving is complicated by many factors that do not accompany most losses and the grieving of the lost object of affection. Those who knew Michael personally have had a difficult time but the fans have had the most difficult.

The fans, while they knew Michael intimately, did not actually meet him and weren’t a part of his inner circle. Instead of being involved and included in the provisions of dealing with his preparation, funeral, interment, visitations and so on, they are forced to be mere observers and “outsiders.”They have had no say in how Michael’s passing was handled. For most, Michael was an intimate part of their lives and being an outsider leaves them with a feeling of helplessness.
Add to that the impossibility of the media and the press coverage of Michael and how he has been, and is now—portrayed so visibly in the world. They know the man’s heart and they have researched the facts and know him to be an innocent. They also know what a consummate humanitarian Michael was and how that part of his life has been overlooked.

The media managed to hypnotize a public into believing a caricature of this man and just continues to spew the party line and each time that happens, the fans who know better wince. Not only do they wince, but they feel that knife go into his back and empathically, theirs each time the lies are repeated. Once again, they feel helpless. There is also the issue of those “unauthorized biographers” whose careers were, and wealth was, built upon the dismemberment of a man who truly was a light unto the world. The man who was the world’s greatest cheerleader, humanitarian and philanthropist was turned into a dark figure in the collective memory of the twentieth century and that hurts. It is especially vile when the realization hits that the dismembering of this gentle man was perpetrated only for profit. The manufactured books and stories about Michael Jackson sold and billions of dollars were made from siphoning the life from the man.

Fans are angry not just because that is a phase of the journey of grief; they are a disenfranchised voice of reason. They are the whistleblowers who are trying to tell the hypnotized public that they are under the influence of an illusion and that this practice is not only dangerous but inhumane. They also have to deal with the disdain that has developed about “those crazy Michael Jackson fans.” The frenzy among the fans is somewhat an acting out of their anger, grief and helplessness. It’s true that some of it appears crazy and doesn’t help Michael’s legacy and is a lashing out from frustration. They don’t know how else to do it. They are flailing in grief and aiming at anything that moves. They are in the throes of it, their backs to the wall in order to hold themselves up. It’s not pretty sometimes but grief is not lovely. And senseless loss is the worst kind. They know Michael did not have to die.

Michael Jackson fans are grieving in a way that is not normal in an atmosphere that is not normal. Normally the deceased is eulogized in a reverent way, their contributions to others and the world highlighted. Their lives are celebrated and revered. Normally, they have some closure. There is no closure with the death of Michael Jackson. It is not a normal grieving process because the hype, reaction, media slant and opinions of those who didn’t know Michael taint the process. If the real Michael Jackson were globally exposed tomorrow and people would actually see how they have been duped and led by the nose into believing the tabloid version of the man, the fans could take a deep breath. If the real story were actually released into the culture and people started to understand this one they have believed an enigma, the fans would have some hope. If the whole sorry mess were exposed for what it was and the world was truly informed about the truth of this story, and an acknowledgement was made of the damage, the fans could begin normal grieving. And eventually they would heal.

So it is important to understand that those “crazy Michael Jackson fans” may be up to something important. While some are hostile and misguided and they act out their anguish in ways that are sometimes destructive and not always helpful or pretty, they really are trying… They are trying to save Michael and save themselves from a cruel world that mistreats really, really badly—its greatest treasures. They are trying to save the world from its delusions. They are trying to resurrect the truth. They are trying to construct an honest humanity because they are deconstructing tolerance for untruths and reconstructing humanity’s compassion. They are trying to prevent another human being from dismemberment for sport and for profit. They are trying to live Michael’s legacy—to heal the world and make it a better place. They are holding up a mirror to the world and saying: “look here: look what happened, look what was done to this human being; do you like what you see?” They do that for Michael because that is what Michael did. And he was crucified for it. They are trying to bring back humanity and are bringing salvation back. Maybe we should take into consideration what it is that they are actually grieving and maybe, if we can get past our judgment, we should listen.



http://www.innermichael.com/2010/10/those-crazy-mj-fans-maybe-we-should-listen/
 
Ankita;3039019 said:
This is so absolutely true of those of us who have been warriors in Michael's Army of Love fighting alongside him with all our might, giving it our all, doing the best to protect him... we will NOT give up the fight, and we 'will' win it, for him, for us and for all the goodness he continues to stand for.

Pl. do visit the site and leave a comment to thank the writer for understanding us and our immeasurable pain, grief, anger, sorrow, agony as we live with all of it, missing him and loving him more with every passing day...


Those “Crazy MJ Fans:” Maybe we should listen?

-Rev. Barbara Kauffmann


The letters come from all over the world—Canada, Indonesia, Greece, Italy, France, Belgium, Japan, Germany, Africa, Romania, Viet Nam… people everywhere are grieving Michael. Many have had visions, visitations and messages from him after his death. Some are doing work on his behalf and some are reclaiming his legacy. All of them understand on a very deep level that this man was special.

Michael’s death had an impact on fans, admirers and even people on the outer orbits of anything Michael. Many have asked why they have been so impacted by this singular event and this singular individual. The short answer is that Michael awakened many on the planet before his death and his death itself awakened many more. People who have never before been interested, are researching him; many who have not considered themselves talented are now finding their inner artist; and many thousands more are doing humanitarian work around this globe in Michael’s name—“Michaeling” by donating to charities, organizing fund raisers, holding conferences and gifting needy children and vulnerable others. They are taking Michael’s “you can change the world” literally and applying it to their lives and work. They are making Michael proud. While they feel a little better, the personal grief remains intense.

What they often don’t understand is how and why their grief is so gritty and so deep. Some of these Michael people are new advocates never having been fans or listened to his music. Some are long time fans who have followed Michael’s career since the days of the Jackson Five. But all have in common their admiration and affection for Michael Jackson.
Many of them have told me they are surprised by the impact Michael’s passing had on them—equivalent to a magnitude 7 or 8 earthquake on the Richter Scale. The ones who didn’t know Michael, didn’t listen to his music are really puzzled how affected they are by his loss. Some of them have experienced this grief as they would have a close loved one yet they never knew him before. Some didn’t know how deeply they could hurt. Some feel as if his leaving awakened something in them. It did. Many embarked on a personal spiritual journey begun by an emergency that his death triggered. Janet Jackson said “To you Michael was an Icon; to us Michael was family.” While that is technically true if measured by flesh and blood, Michael was the lifeline of many. He was the one voice of sanity in a world gripped by so much insanity. For many, he was their hope, their confidante, their role model, their leader or guru. He represented the way out or the way forward. He was someone who came from nothing and became something larger than life. Michael’s voice soothed. His lyrics put many of their hopes, thoughts and prayers into words. For some, he represented their light in a world that was otherwise hopelessly dark.

When Michael Jackson left this planet he took his immediate light with him. That light was anchored here for 50 years and its sudden withdrawal left people reeling and feeling empty. Their tears were and are spontaneous, their sorrow is suffocating. Many not only did not know him before, but they did not know their own spectrum of feelings before.
The seminal work by Elizabeth Kubler-Ross on Death and Dying identified a roadmap of what the normal grieving process looks like. That first work has been expanded upon since it was first introduced and there are many models. Nobody follows the predicted path exactly, and the layers of grieving can mingle and be revisited at any stage. The progression of grief usually follows the path of: Initial shock, denial, pain, guilt, anger, bargaining, depression, reflection, loneliness, working through, reconstruction, acceptance, and hope. When an individual works through sufficient grief, there may be a reprieve period where feelings are muted and the process is not linear but cyclic.
In the case of Michael Jackson the normal process of grieving is complicated by many factors that do not accompany most losses and the grieving of the lost object of affection. Those who knew Michael personally have had a difficult time but the fans have had the most difficult.

The fans, while they knew Michael intimately, did not actually meet him and weren’t a part of his inner circle. Instead of being involved and included in the provisions of dealing with his preparation, funeral, interment, visitations and so on, they are forced to be mere observers and “outsiders.”They have had no say in how Michael’s passing was handled. For most, Michael was an intimate part of their lives and being an outsider leaves them with a feeling of helplessness.
Add to that the impossibility of the media and the press coverage of Michael and how he has been, and is now—portrayed so visibly in the world. They know the man’s heart and they have researched the facts and know him to be an innocent. They also know what a consummate humanitarian Michael was and how that part of his life has been overlooked.

The media managed to hypnotize a public into believing a caricature of this man and just continues to spew the party line and each time that happens, the fans who know better wince. Not only do they wince, but they feel that knife go into his back and empathically, theirs each time the lies are repeated. Once again, they feel helpless. There is also the issue of those “unauthorized biographers” whose careers were, and wealth was, built upon the dismemberment of a man who truly was a light unto the world. The man who was the world’s greatest cheerleader, humanitarian and philanthropist was turned into a dark figure in the collective memory of the twentieth century and that hurts. It is especially vile when the realization hits that the dismembering of this gentle man was perpetrated only for profit. The manufactured books and stories about Michael Jackson sold and billions of dollars were made from siphoning the life from the man.

Fans are angry not just because that is a phase of the journey of grief; they are a disenfranchised voice of reason. They are the whistleblowers who are trying to tell the hypnotized public that they are under the influence of an illusion and that this practice is not only dangerous but inhumane. They also have to deal with the disdain that has developed about “those crazy Michael Jackson fans.” The frenzy among the fans is somewhat an acting out of their anger, grief and helplessness. It’s true that some of it appears crazy and doesn’t help Michael’s legacy and is a lashing out from frustration. They don’t know how else to do it. They are flailing in grief and aiming at anything that moves. They are in the throes of it, their backs to the wall in order to hold themselves up. It’s not pretty sometimes but grief is not lovely. And senseless loss is the worst kind. They know Michael did not have to die.

Michael Jackson fans are grieving in a way that is not normal in an atmosphere that is not normal. Normally the deceased is eulogized in a reverent way, their contributions to others and the world highlighted. Their lives are celebrated and revered. Normally, they have some closure. There is no closure with the death of Michael Jackson. It is not a normal grieving process because the hype, reaction, media slant and opinions of those who didn’t know Michael taint the process. If the real Michael Jackson were globally exposed tomorrow and people would actually see how they have been duped and led by the nose into believing the tabloid version of the man, the fans could take a deep breath. If the real story were actually released into the culture and people started to understand this one they have believed an enigma, the fans would have some hope. If the whole sorry mess were exposed for what it was and the world was truly informed about the truth of this story, and an acknowledgement was made of the damage, the fans could begin normal grieving. And eventually they would heal.

So it is important to understand that those “crazy Michael Jackson fans” may be up to something important. While some are hostile and misguided and they act out their anguish in ways that are sometimes destructive and not always helpful or pretty, they really are trying… They are trying to save Michael and save themselves from a cruel world that mistreats really, really badly—its greatest treasures. They are trying to save the world from its delusions. They are trying to resurrect the truth. They are trying to construct an honest humanity because they are deconstructing tolerance for untruths and reconstructing humanity’s compassion. They are trying to prevent another human being from dismemberment for sport and for profit. They are trying to live Michael’s legacy—to heal the world and make it a better place. They are holding up a mirror to the world and saying: “look here: look what happened, look what was done to this human being; do you like what you see?” They do that for Michael because that is what Michael did. And he was crucified for it. They are trying to bring back humanity and are bringing salvation back. Maybe we should take into consideration what it is that they are actually grieving and maybe, if we can get past our judgment, we should listen.



http://www.innermichael.com/2010/10/those-crazy-mj-fans-maybe-we-should-listen/

that's a very true statement. sometimes it takes an outsider.
some wish MJ didn't have fans, but because he still does, they're gunna get labeled, no matter what. keep Michaeling and keep fighting. that's why it's called an Army of Love. and there are no psychiatrists for us, because they're duped by the media into coming up with five dollar words designed to tell us to get over it. and they plan on making five thousand dollars doing it.
 
I feel like she summed up everything that I feel. Its all about Michael's legacy now and preserving it. I have a hole in my heart that will never ever be filled and we will always be Michael's soldiers of love.
 
This is exactly how I felt and feel, hopelessly sad, desparate, angry, and now it's about preserving his legacy and educating the ignorant media and public, with gentle kind words, written from the heart, stemming from that same source that is so inspirational. Like Michael said "lies run sprints but the truth runs marathons"
 
How many of us literally have been feeling as if someone yanked the rug from beneath our feet? I can tell you I have never felt this way in my entire life. There has been good stuff that forced me to grow as a person and he sparked creative channels in me that had buried a long time ago- but man, it comes at a high price. Very high price.

For me personally it does not make any difference in levels of "pain" wether I would "get over it" faster or not.
While I hurt like an animal whenever I see trial footage (they might as well have killed him then, instead of slowly carving out the very essence of him with a dull spoon while the world is watching in cruel attention).

I would wish for Michael that this demonization of a kind and loving being would cease- and that nobody else will ever have to carry a burden that he carried.
I do feel as if hurting on his behalf- but even that is just a fraction of the pain he felt. And I felt like that since 1993, that's a long time for some of us to be watching what he went through. I also don't let myself get too deep into "what have they done to you" because I literally would break down if would focus on that- I don't know how he managed to carry on with the stuff they threw at him.

Yet, even if the entire media would suddenly celebrate the humanitarian that we all know he is- I still would miss him as if part of myself left this planet on June 25th.

So that would be the little part I disagree on in Mrs Kaufmann's excellent article. I still would hurt, even if everyone ceased the innuendo and would refer to him by his actual name instead of some cruel nickname.
I still would miss and maybe that's the lesson- I will always miss him. For as long as I can remember in this life- he was there, no matter what they threw at him.

Even looking back it- last year TII came out, it helped a little bit to not just lay down and cry.

that's a very true statement. sometimes it takes an outsider.
some wish MJ didn't have fans, but because he still does, they're gunna get labeled, no matter what. keep Michaeling and keep fighting. that's why it's called an Army of Love. and there are no psychiatrists for us, because they're duped by the media into coming up with five dollar words designed to tell us to get over it. and they plan on making five thousand dollars doing it.

Unfortunately that is very true. There are a few rare exceptions that will manage to keep a straight face in front of you while drawing some interesting smilies into your file. There are a few rare exceptions out there who indeed few this a phenomena, some do understand that something funky is going on, something they might not have seen previously.

Having worked in a few Doctor's Office I have even less of a desire to spend a whole lot of money so that people can laugh behind their patient's back about the "especially lose cannons" of patients. And trust me, they do. I have no desire to try and convince myself chemically that all is well and I just need to find a way to disengage myself. I feel this way because it is truth- not because my internal chemistry can change the facts of why I am missing him. I might as well drink- same deal. I know a lot of people think differently about antidepressants- but this is one of these situations where numbing myself isn't going to change anything.
Those that can be helped this way- I would say, wonderful.
I am personally afraid that I would temporarily feel better because of chemicals that I am ingesting- and after the dose is being cut? I don't feel like adding this issue to the load- 'cause having to deal with it without medication is what I am doing now- it would mean just pushing out the inevitable.

If people had great success with antidepressants- that is wonderful. I just have seen too many people around me that just added the dependency on chemicals to their problems.

How people can hurt that immensely over another they might have never met in this life. Heck, people expect you "to get over it" if you lose a child, or other beloved one. How will they understand us being shaken to the core by an "entertainer's" death?

Ultimately we will be the ones that will have to teach THEM that we're not crazy- because they will learn from us what compassion means, guess we're carrying Michael's torch to a degree. Decades down the road they will have understood why we hurt so much as we do- and then later everyone will say, oh, they were right.

We do have a purpose in this, I just would wish we wouldn't have to hurt so damn much while walking this path.
We all think we are alone in this, which yes and no, is true- and it is not.
But it does feel alone- tell me, how many of us can truthfully go out into the world and tell your everyday folks why you are hurting? You already know how the majority will react, it would cause you more pain.

So we try to makes this place a better one, just as he did and we still hurt doing it. Just as he did. Guess Michael and us, who love him, are glued together.

Have we all understood just yet that Love is indeed eternal?
Most people have no clue what it entails to truly understand that, 'cause that realization is a whole 'nother ballgame.
They might want to ask us this question, give us a few more years and they will see with astonishment just how much of a veteran in that question we will have become.

Sorry if that sounds dramatic and laced with pathos, but it's the truth.
 
How many of us literally have been feeling as if someone yanked the rug from beneath our feet? I can tell you I have never felt this way in my entire life. There has been good stuff that forced me to grow as a person and he sparked creative channels in me that had buried a long time ago- but man, it comes at a high price. Very high price.

For me personally it does not make any difference in levels of "pain" wether I would "get over it" faster or not.
While I hurt like an animal whenever I see trial footage (they might as well have killed him then, instead of slowly carving out the very essence of him with a dull spoon while the world is watching in cruel attention).

I would wish for Michael that this demonization of a kind and loving being would cease- and that nobody else will ever have to carry a burden that he carried.
I do feel as if hurting on his behalf- but even that is just a fraction of the pain he felt. And I felt like that since 1993, that's a long time for some of us to be watching what he went through. I also don't let myself get too deep into "what have they done to you" because I literally would break down if would focus on that- I don't know how he managed to carry on with the stuff they threw at him.

Yet, even if the entire media would suddenly celebrate the humanitarian that we all know he is- I still would miss him as if part of myself left this planet on June 25th.

So that would be the little part I disagree on in Mrs Kaufmann's excellent article. I still would hurt, even if everyone ceased the innuendo and would refer to him by his actual name instead of some cruel nickname.
I still would miss and maybe that's the lesson- I will always miss him. For as long as I can remember in this life- he was there, no matter what they threw at him.

Even looking back it- last year TII came out, it helped a little bit to not just lay down and cry.



Unfortunately that is very true. There are a few rare exceptions that will manage to keep a straight face in front of you while drawing some interesting smilies into your file. There are a few rare exceptions out there who indeed few this a phenomena, some do understand that something funky is going on, something they might not have seen previously.

Having worked in a few Doctor's Office I have even less of a desire to spend a whole lot of money so that people can laugh behind their patient's back about the "especially lose cannons" of patients. And trust me, they do. I have no desire to try and convince myself chemically that all is well and I just need to find a way to disengage myself. I feel this way because it is truth- not because my internal chemistry can change the facts of why I am missing him. I might as well drink- same deal. I know a lot of people think differently about antidepressants- but this is one of these situations where numbing myself isn't going to change anything.
Those that can be helped this way- I would say, wonderful.
I am personally afraid that I would temporarily feel better because of chemicals that I am ingesting- and after the dose is being cut? I don't feel like adding this issue to the load- 'cause having to deal with it without medication is what I am doing now- it would mean just pushing out the inevitable.

If people had great success with antidepressants- that is wonderful. I just have seen too many people around me that just added the dependency on chemicals to their problems.

How people can hurt that immensely over another they might have never met in this life. Heck, people expect you "to get over it" if you lose a child, or other beloved one. How will they understand us being shaken to the core by an "entertainer's" death?

Ultimately we will be the ones that will have to teach THEM that we're not crazy- because they will learn from us what compassion means, guess we're carrying Michael's torch to a degree. Decades down the road they will have understood why we hurt so much as we do- and then later everyone will say, oh, they were right.

We do have a purpose in this, I just would wish we wouldn't have to hurt so damn much while walking this path.
We all think we are alone in this, which yes and no, is true- and it is not.
But it does feel alone- tell me, how many of us can truthfully go out into the world and tell your everyday folks why you are hurting? You already know how the majority will react, it would cause you more pain.

So we try to makes this place a better one, just as he did and we still hurt doing it. Just as he did. Guess Michael and us, who love him, are glued together.

Have we all understood just yet that Love is indeed eternal?
Most people have no clue what it entails to truly understand that, 'cause that realization is a whole 'nother ballgame.
They might want to ask us this question, give us a few more years and they will see with astonishment just how much of a veteran in that question we will have become.

Sorry if that sounds dramatic and laced with pathos, but it's the truth.


i'm glad you have a lot of hope. it's uplifting to see posts like yours.. as for me..i don't know about everyone...but everyone knows..i know when i am causing someone hurt, even if i don't admit it..all of us are equal in the respect of knowing when we are hurting someone, whether or not we admit it..

so they know why we hurt, but they refuse to see it..as MJ's lyric says..'some things some people just don't wanna see'.

i mean, how are we going to compete with the new york times?(i'm sure there are other mainstream media, but the times is featured in another thread on this site, right now) they're still lacing their articles with 'child molester' and 'drug addict'. and they know different. they're too old for this, but that doesn't stop them. and who, in the psychiatry world doesn't take the new york times as gospel? that's what we are up against. if the new york times is gospel to the establishment, and that has influence on a good deal of the general public, how do we compete against that, to keep future generations from being corrupted by the lies? it doesn't matter how we approach this...i don't know if we can compete with people who know what is what, but refuse to alleviate their own envious stubborness. this is why we feel how we feel..indeed, it's not hate or craziness on our part..it's abject frustration, and hopelessness we feel, legitimately, because of those things, like you said.

indeed, when a mama disciplines a child, it's not hate, as some would like to call it. and we're dealing with adults.

i had just put on my King Of Pop shirt, this week, and heard hateful adults laugh and say 'he's dead now'. these adults saw the papers say 'not guilty', before the papers went back to their hateful ways. these adults know, but they don't wanna see. that's what we're up against.

those adults know, as they seethe in hateful envy over the letters that come from all the countries mentioned in the original post.
 
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All what MJ fans have to do to go through this pain of losing Michael is to find a real love in their lives and live their lives in full without having Michael around. He shared his love with this world and he used to teach people how to love through his music and now he is gone…..He had his own life path and it is over for him. He is free from this world and he does not belong here anymore. His music does but not him.

This “lost part” of Michael each fan had before his passing has to be healed with a real LOVE. Nothing else will help to “get over it” imo.

There is a moment of time when MJ fans have to try to live their OWN lives without a teacher around and see if the lesson of love was learned well. I do believe, it is the most wonderful feeling to love somebody close to you and get his/her love back and feel that this person makes you whole. What can be better than that? If there is not a right person beside you still, that means it is a time for a good change.

Because Michael’s art is a very emotional art, MJ fans know what love means and they know what to look for and I do believe MJ fans are able to change the world around them teaching others about love and compassion. This what Michael wanted from his fans imo. He wanted them to live their lives in full and be happy. Maybe it is a good start to make that positive change in own lives?

My post was not about Michael's legacy. Obviously there are many things fans can do to honor him.

Peace…. :angel:
 
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there are many who had tried over and over to look for that love in their lives(and still do)..and they hear people tell them, there's still hope in that endeavor, a lot...

lots of empty feelings and broken hearts behind that...MJ or no MJ, before, during and after him. and those people always want to look for love, for love's own sake. and it never has anything to do with MJ.

but back on the topic at hand..there are a lot of people who have had been a part of charity work, even before Michael showed it to the world..and, after, they're still at it..

still, he is greatly missed...and he should be..he was that great. he once sang in a song, we will remember him...and he was right..
to not be affected by him this way, is as if to say he didn't make that kind of a positive impact while he was here..

no one knows what was inside his head, but everyone knows what he left to this world. and it was gloriously positive. and when he left..so went that light. and that hurts..and it's supposed to hurt. add to that, the first in history: the media's continuing defamation. even now. to continue to spew it in our face, even if we tried to forget...which we shouldn't. maybe they're heartless, and therefore cannot feel our anguish. but we have hearts..we're supposed to feel the anguish, and we do.
 
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Gosh...sometimes it is hard to accept that MJ is really gone. Even a year and a half later...

I will never get used to a world without MJ in it.
 
i'm glad you have a lot of hope. it's uplifting to see posts like yours.. as for me..i don't know about everyone...but everyone knows..i know when i am causing someone hurt, even if i don't admit it..all of us are equal in the respect of knowing when we are hurting someone, whether or not we admit it..

so they know why we hurt, but they refuse to see it..as MJ's lyric says..'some things some people just don't wanna see'.

Yes, I do have Hope before anything else. Hope carries me to do other things, say, as having a little bit of Faith, just a little bit. It makes it bearable.
I do like Michael's words:
Michael's Exeter City Football Club Speech said:
...Together we can make a change of the world. Together we can help to stop racism. Together we can help to stop prejudice. We can help the world live without fear. Its our only hope, without hope we are lost.

And, most importantly ... (balloons are let in the air) - That's beautiful. Thats a sign of hope right there!

MJholdingEarth.jpg

i mean, how are we going to compete with the new york times?(i'm sure there are other mainstream media, but the times is featured in another thread on this site, right now) they're still lacing their articles with 'child molester' and 'drug addict'. and they know different. they're too old for this, but that doesn't stop them. and who, in the psychiatry world doesn't take the new york times as gospel? that's what we are up against. if the new york times is gospel to the establishment, and that has influence on a good deal of the general public, how do we compete against that, to keep future generations from being corrupted by the lies? it doesn't matter how we approach this...i don't know if we can compete with people who know what is what, but refuse to alleviate their own envious stubborness. this is why we feel how we feel..indeed, it's not hate or craziness on our part..it's abject frustration, and hopelessness we feel, legitimately, because of those things, like you said.

indeed, when a mama disciplines a child, it's not hate, as some would like to call it. and we're dealing with adults.

i had just put on my King Of Pop shirt, this week, and heard hateful adults laugh and say 'he's dead now'. these adults saw the papers say 'not guilty', before the papers went back to their hateful ways. these adults know, but they don't wanna see. that's what we're up against.

those adults know, as they seethe in hateful envy over the letters that come from all the countries mentioned in the original post.

I do understand your frustration, yes, I share it.
Sometimes it's small things that give me hope again.

I wore a sweatshirt the other day that featured his face rather prominently. Some people looked confused, others stared in obvious disdain (you can hear what they are thinking...)= and the third person gave me the best smile of the entire week. Full of understanding and a shared smile of "Oh, I understand and I KNOW." Made my day and it still makes me happy.

There's a multitude of things I do in his name, remembering him and feeling him smile- and nobody knows. The quiet acts of helping someone.
Also the reason why I keep blabbing on sentimentally about Peace and Hope. :D

None of these acts of helping someone are easing the pain, but they are the reason "why".

One day, people will say, look at all these people who loved him so much. Look at what their love for him made them do, all these things. Look at the things they did, if Love carried them, maybe there was something to him that made him into the air under their wings? I remain hopeful.
 
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there are many who had tried over and over to look for that love in their lives(and still do)..and they hear people tell them, there's still hope in that endeavor, a lot...

lots of empty feelings and broken hearts behind that...MJ or no MJ, before, during and after him. and those people always want to look for love, for love's own sake. and it never has anything to do with MJ.

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In my opinion it is a LOT to do with MJ,because Michael for many was like a source of love on Earth which was magical and at the same time it was easy to get or to imagine that you are getting it cos he physically was here and his energy was here. It was a nice feeling for many. Now everything had changed, because there is no such man like Michael around anymore.
Ok. One little part of Michael's Exeter City Football Club Speech
was posted above.

I am going to post another part of it which clearly represents in my opinion HOW fans can change the world around them. This part is an important part of this speech from my point of view because it teaches actions, the hardest part for people to do.

“I would like all of you now to take the hand of the person to the left and to the right. Go ahead! Right now! I mean it! Don’t be shy! Do it! It starts now! To the person next to you. To the left and the right. I mean it. Right now! Go ahead! Don’t be shy. Do it! Do it! Now, tell the person … tell the person next to you that you care for them. Tell them that you care for them. Tell them that you love them. Tell them that you love them. This is what makes the difference.

“Together … (Michael laughing) … (audience screaming) … together we can make a change of the world. Together we can help to stop racism. Together we can help to stop prejudice. We can help the world live without fear. It’s our only hope, without hope we are lost.

It is easy to love such perfection like Michael but it is not easy to love a regular human being beside you.
 
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In my opinion it is a LOT to do with MJ,because Michael for many was like a source of love on Earth which was magical and at the same time it was easy to get or to imagine that you are getting it cos he physically was here and his energy was here. It was a nice feeling for many. Now everything had changed, because there is no such man like Michael around anymore.

Ok. One little part of Michael's Exeter City Football Club Speech
was posted above.

I am going to post another part of it which clearly represents in my opinion HOW fans can change the world around them. This part is an important part of this speech from my point of view because it teaches actions, the hardest part for people to do.



It is easy to love such perfection like Michael but it is not easy to love a regular human being beside you.

it's interesting that you call him perfection, when others say he was not perfect and had his flaws just like everybody else...

i'm not even going to comment on what i think on that subject..
and believe me..that doesn't mean i agree with you..or them...or that i don't agree with you...or them...

but i will say this..are you saying that throughout history, people haven't tried their hardest to love another human being who was nearby them, many times?
 
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it's interesting that you call him perfection, when others say he was not perfect and had his flaws just like everybody else...

I think I have to explain myself better here. For many fans he was a perfect guy, they easy can fall in love with. This is what “perfection” means in this context.
This is not what I think myself. Nobody is perfect really but he got close enough to this point imo.

but i will say this..are you saying that throughout history, people haven't tried their hardest to love another human being who was nearby them, many times?

Sure they tried but most of times people look for that perfection in many ways. Michael is a good example. "Army of Love" does not have any meaning without real physical actions when people really do something for a change. Without an action in real life it will remain a virtual reality. It does not have to be something huge. Everybody has a little own "garden" to work on.
 
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Ankita;3039019 said:
So it is important to understand that those “crazy Michael Jackson fans” may be up to something important. While some are hostile and misguided and they act out their anguish in ways that are sometimes destructive and not always helpful or pretty, they really are trying… They are trying to save Michael and save themselves from a cruel world that mistreats really, really badly—its greatest treasures. They are trying to save the world from its delusions. They are trying to resurrect the truth. They are trying to construct an honest humanity because they are deconstructing tolerance for untruths and reconstructing humanity’s compassion. They are trying to prevent another human being from dismemberment for sport and for profit. They are trying to live Michael’s legacy—to heal the world and make it a better place. They are holding up a mirror to the world and saying: “look here: look what happened, look what was done to this human being; do you like what you see?” They do that for Michael because that is what Michael did. And he was crucified for it. They are trying to bring back humanity and are bringing salvation back. Maybe we should take into consideration what it is that they are actually grieving and maybe, if we can get past our judgment, we should listen.



http://www.innermichael.com/2010/10/those-crazy-mj-fans-maybe-we-should-listen/

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