Michael Jackson Rehab Interventions vs Family Concert Tours

[billyworld99]

Posted on August 12, 2013 by lacienegasmiles


This is a timeline of the conflicting stories about “interventions” by the Jackson family, and also the attempts they made to recruit him into tours during the same period, intending to show the overlap between the two; if they accuse AEG of putting undue pressure on Jackson it would seem they were guilty of the same thing.

Story about a family member who may be selling stories on MJ’s reported drug addiction as an attempt to retaliate against him, Roger Friedman – possible source Frank Cascio, January 6th 2006

Michael Jackson had a perfect, five-star, expensive Christmas in Bahrain, thanks to his host, the prince.

Jackson flew in his three main surrogate families from different locations, put them up in hotels and got them expensive gifts. The families were: the Schleiters, from Germany; the Bhatti’s, from Norway; and the Cascio’s from New Jersey.

The report from the Jackson holiday was a good one, however. Jackson, according to sources, ate heartily, didn’t seem to be drugged in any way and was friendly and upbeat with his guests. The guests did not get to meet the prince, but they did see Jackson’s new digs outside the palace at a house he, his kids and “nanny” Grace Rwarmba are all staying in courtesy of the prince.

If Jackson is not desperately hooked on drugs, then what about all those panic-ridden stories that ran in the supermarket tabloids just a few weeks ago? Speculation is that some members of Jackson’s family who feel left out or left back since Michael split the U.S. may be selling stories to make money.

One friend of the family who attended court sessions off and on last year has been mentioned as a go-between who sets up the deals and then kicks back the payments.

Janet Jackson tells Oprah she’s had no contact with MJ since the trial, Sept 25th 2006

Oprah – Of all your brothers and sisters, who are you closest to?


Janet – It switches.

Oprah – Does it?

Janet – Yes, I have so many…

Oprah – I’ve heard that in big families it does.

Janet – It switches. It could be one person for several months and then another person for several months. I would say right now… it’s Jermaine.

Oprah – Really.

Janet – Hmm uh.

[...]

Oprah – Anyway, ah, do you talk to Michael? Where is he?

Janet – Umm, he’s in the Middle East, in, ah, Bahrain, or… No, I haven’t spoken to him.

Oprah – Since he left? Really?

Janet – Yes, since the trial.

Oprah – Really?

Janet – No, I haven’t.

Oprah – Do you worry about him?

Janet – Ahh, he keeps in touch with Mother, so we know what’s going on with him.

Oprah – So you know what’s going on with him.

Janet – Yeah.

[...]

Oprah – Are you close to his children?

Janet – Well, he… his children are always with him…hmm uh, so…

Oprah – That would be hard…

Janet – Yes.

Oprah – …to be close.

Jack Wishna states he never saw any drug use but it was his family coming back into his life that brought back “weirdness”, Vegas businessman and dealer worked with MJ for 7 months from December 2006-mid 2007

“It was December 23rd 2006, it was the day before Christmas Eve and we arranged it where a private jet would pick Michael Jackson up in Dublin, Ireland, and take him directly to Las Vegas,” Wishna said in an interview for Access Hollywood and Las Vegas television station KVBC with correspondent Alicia Jacobs.

And Wishna revealed the vision he shared with Jackson.

“When he came off that plane, it was the old Michael Jackson of the ‘Bad Tour,’ type thing, it was the Michael Jackson that I grew up with,” he said.

And although Jackson’s use of prescription drugs became big news after his death, Wishna said he never saw any of that kind of stuff around.

“Never saw any drugs,” Wishna said. “Never saw any intravenous, or needles or anything like that. Never met any doctors around Michael.”

“As he stayed in Las Vegas, he started to get debilitated while he was here and debilitated from a mental health standpoint, debilitated from a physical standpoint,” Wishna said.

“The family started to, you know, bother him again… His father Joe. It just started – a lot of the weirdness started to come back,” he continued.

People magazine claim of an “intervention” held by family with Janet on the phone, 2007 sometime


As far back as 2006, members of Michael’s family were terrified that his escalating dependence on prescription drugs had become a danger to his life – and attempted an intervention in Las Vegas.

“The family believes Michael is addicted,” a family insider said. “There was an intervention in Las Vegas. Janet was on the phone, but Randy, Jackie and Rebbie were there in person,” the source said, referring to several of Michael’s eight siblings.

“Michael got p—ed off. He said he wasn’t on drugs. But they didn’t believe him.”

Raymone Bain refuted the idea there’d been any intervention by his family, stating his family had only seen him to ask him about a reunion tour, February 2007

Raymone Bain, the former longtime publicist for Michael Jackson, has said there is no truth to rumors that have surfaced in the media since the pop star’s death, claiming that members of the Jackson family staged a failed intervention for the pop star in 2007.

“It is not true,” Raymone told Access Hollywood’s Billy Bush in a new interview.

Raymone, who filed suit against the King of Pop earlier this year for $44 million over claims he failed to pay her for her publicity services and more, said a meeting with the family took place in 2007, but it was business related.

“I recall in February, there was a meeting with Mr. Jackson and his sisters and brothers about a concert,” she recounted. “There was a concert promoter who accompanied them there. That is the meeting that I… am aware of… I know nothing else about any other intervention.”

Concert promote Leonard Rowe stated that he had visited Michael with the family in February and April of 2007 in an attempt to have him tour with them and that they had been angry with Jackson for not agreeing

On February 14th of 2007, I was in my kitchen fixing breakfast around 8am, and I received a call. I wondered who it could be that early, but it was too early for me to talk, so I didn’t answer. My phone beeped and I knew a message had been left. It was a message from Janet Jackson, Michael’s sister. She said, ‘Rowe, this is Jan. Would you please call me as soon as possible, it’s important.’ I said to myself, ‘I wonder what she wants this time of morning.’ I immediately returned the call and Janet answered. She was in Atlanta, and said, ‘Rowe, I’m in a little trouble; my tour has been cancelled by Live Nation, and I’m obligated to my band. They have blocked their time out this summer to tour with me. And now, if I don’t tour they will be missing income.’

She then asked, if we could go out on tour and do twenty shows. I knew very well why Live Nation had cancelled. It was because at the time Janet was cold as ice. I did not believe she had the drawing power to tour at that time, but I could not help but think about how much Michael and her brothers the Jacksons had done for me earlier in my career. Because of my appreciation and gratitude, I knew I would do whatever was needed to help Janet. Even if it meant losing everything I owned and possessed, I truly would have done it. It was very painful to me, when later I found her to be unappreciative of my efforts. Being a black concert promoter in the concert business, ‘we have always had to learn how to take lemons and make lemonade.’ I told her to give me a few hours to think and I would call her back later that day. I pondered over her problem all afternoon, and I came up with three scenarios. I knew Michael had returned to the states. He was now living in Las Vegas.

I later called her and said to her, ‘I’m going to Las Vegas, talk to Michael, and see if I can get him to get back with the brothers and tour. If he agrees to do that, I want you Janet, to be the opening act.’ Janet loved the idea. She asked me when I was going to Las Vegas. I told her I was going in a few days possibly Saturday. She asked if she could meet me there because she was flying back to Los Angeles, and would have her driver bring her to Las Vegas, so she could be there when I arrived that morning.

I arrived in Las Vegas that Saturday around 5pm; we had decided that we were going to meet at her older sister, Rebbie’s house before going over to Michael’s. To my surprise, Jermaine, Marlon, Randy and Jackie were also there. After a short meeting we left to go over to Michael’s house about 7pm; when we arrived we were met by Michael’s security. We told them we were there to see Michael. He told us to wait one minute while he went inside to tell Michael that we were out there. When the guard returned he asked each of us to write down our names so Michael would know exactly who we were. After about fifteen minutes the security guard returned and led us into the house. When I saw Michael I could tell he was very nervous, I truly think he thought we were there for another reason. I noticed immediately that he was very thin. We went into the movie theatre room of the house to talk.

I began to explain to Michael why we had come to see him. I told him that we wanted him to reunite with his brothers and to tour America. I told him Janet had agreed to be the opening act. I told him that I felt this tour would be highly successful. He said that he agreed that it would be. But he said, ‘I just can’t do it now, I have other things I am planning and working on.’ We stayed there for a few hours trying to persuade him. I think Janet was becoming somewhat angry with him. His final words to us were, ‘Maybe next year in 2008 I will be ready.’ To me this wasn’t bad because I would need the time to prepare for a tour of this magnitude, but Janet needed to work that summer. She had committed the month of July to her band, and she needed to fulfill that commitment. I could tell that Michael was becoming irritable and we decided to leave.

“Singer says his brother and pal tried to cheat him out of fortune
Sunday,” Trial between Stabler vs MJ involving his brother Randy was set to begin, June 17th 2007

“Michael Jackson names a man close to his brother Randy Jackson as the lead culprit, in disposition transcripts obtained by the New York Daily News. The behind-the-scenes battle over the pop star’s finances is detailed in a sworn deposition he gave for a federal lawsuit scheduled to go to trial this week.

The Gloved One states that Randy brought in Don Stabler, who pressured him to sign off on a multi-million dollar financing deal. Stabler, according to Jackson was persistent. He even went as far as to question Jackson’s loyalty to his African American heritage. .”[Stabler] said, ‘What’s the problem? You’re not down, you’re with the Jews now. You’re not down with blacks anymore. Jackson testified. “It was unkind,” Jackson added. “It was mean. It was meanspirited. It was nasty. Simply because he couldn’t get me to sign something that he wanted me to sign.” “It’s full of sharks, charlatans and imposters,” he said in testimony taken last summer in Paris.

“Because there’s a lot of money involved, there’s a bunch of schmucks in there,” Jackson said. “It’s the entertainment world, full of thieves and crooks. That’s not new. Everybody knows that.” But during breaks in the trial, Jackson says he was being pressured to sign off on a multimillion-dollar financing deal by Don Stabler, an associate brought in by brother Randy, his go-to guy on financial matters during much of his career.

By then, Jackson had turned to Burkle, the billionaire pal of former President Bill Clinton, for financial help. Burkle brought in Jesse Jackson, who’s known Michael Jackson since his Jackson 5 days, to help with the consultation. Burkle was calling him on the cell phone during bathroom breaks, warning him not to sign anything, Michael Jackson said. Stabler wasn’t happy, Jackson said. The next time Jackson saw Stabler “he wanted to take my head off.” And his brother Randy wasn’t too happy, either. Randy later claimed that Jackson and his staff had run up a $700,000 bill on his American Express card during the trial, which Jackson said he would repay. It wasn’t the first time that Stabler teamed with Randy in trying to get him to sign off on a deal, Jackson claimed. At a meeting in a bungalow at the Neverland ranch, Jackson said he had his mother at his side when he fought off another proposal. “And I vehemently told them, ‘No, I am not signing this,’” Jackson recalled. “And I just remember how angry, the intensity of the anger in the room. And so they marched out.”

Jackson, it’s also revealed in the depositions, once tried to sell his half of the company to billionaire Ron Burkle during the child molestation trial. “I remember precisely at court in the bathroom stall with the cell phone in my hand, saying why don’t you just buy it? I want to sell it you,” Jackson said. Burkle, Jackson said, declined, telling him he had to keep the music catalog for his children.”

Some excerpts from Stabler’s deposition about what had happened at this meeting:

Stabler: I got a call from Taunya who said that Grace said Michael did not want to have the meeting. Randy talked to Taunya and said, “**** that.”

Stabler: Randy said, “We are having this meeting. We’ve gone through a lot of trouble for it. I’ll take care of it when we get there.”

Stabler: Randy asked us to stay in the car, he went in and spoke with Michael and then later came out and said the meeting is on.

Stabler: Michael looked at the document we gave him and said, “I’m not signing any document that asked me to give part of my catalog.”

Stabler: Randy tried to explain the docs to him, Sydow said he’ll go through it line by line. Michael said he didn’t want to go through it.

Stabler: Before Randy could say anything Michael said, “you know, I don’t want any violence”.

Stabler: Randy tried to go through the document with Michael but Michael was just not having it. I suggested to Randy that we should leave.

Stabler : In the car Randy said to me that my brother has been drinking.

(In his 2013 AEG testimony Randy claims he did not know his brother drank alcohol)

Roger Friedman reports that the Jacksons were attempting to stage an intervention during these same weeks, Friday, June 29, 2007

Michael Jackson’s siblings — including Janet — and his parents are so worried about the failing pop star that they’ve sent out an emergency 911 call.

Sources tell me that the Jacksons are in the process of contacting Thomas Mesereau, the superstar criminal lawyer who won Jackson an acquittal two years ago in his child molestation trial.

The word from the Jacksons is that they’ve met several times as a family and discussed bringing Mesereau in for an intervention to save Michael.

Mesereau, who did not return calls to this column, is said to be open to finding out what Jackson’s true mental and health status is at this point. If he doesn’t like what he sees, the Jacksons will ask him to do something legal to save their brother’s life. (conservatorship?)

Jackson, according to insiders, is in perilous health right now. There is talk that his liver is damaged (autopsy confirmed this was untrue; Jackson had no damage associated with any long term alcohol or drug use) and that he’s been seen vomiting blood, although there’s no confirmation of that.

Michael Jackson’s bodyguards from 2007-2009 reveal that when Jackson was in Vegas sometime in 2007 Randy and his on/off girlfriend and business partner Taunya Zilkie attempted to crash the security gate while demanding to speak to MJ, Zilkie would attempt to call this an “intervention”

“There was another occasion when Randy came to the house and crashed the security gate with his vehicle and came inside. And at the time, I didn’t know who he was and I drew my weapon on him and the first thing out of his mouth was ‘Get that thing out of my face or I’ll call the press,’” Bill Whitfield said, who said he put away his weapon when he realized it was Randy.

Whitfield said Jackson was “not happy” and refused to see Randy.

Taunya Zilkie, Randy Jackson’s public relations representative, says she was with him that day. She told ABC News that she and Jackson were at the Las Vegas house that day but never made it on to the property. And Zilkie denied that a gun was pulled.

Zilkie said ABC News Randy Jackson went to Jackson’s home that day for an “intervention” but was refused entry into the house.

The three bodyguards said that Randy tried to sneak in behind them as the doors to the gate were closing and hit the gate as he came though. Zilkie said Randy did not crash through the gate.

The bodyguards elaborated more to author Karen Moriarty about this incident,

From the open window of his car Randy yelled out, insisting on seeing his brother Michael. He shouted something about Michael owing him a lot of money.

Whitfield, doing his job, confronted Randy politely but firmly. Randy responded by threatening to call the media … on his own brother.

When the boss was informed of the nasty incident outside his front door, he was understandably upset. Whitfield sheepishly but thoroughly explained the events as they had unfolded. He seemed afraid … of his own younger brother. Who could blame him under these grim circumstances? For the next several days, there were no security details to run or errands to complete for the boss. Mr. Jackson secluded himself in the house without any word heard from him.

In her testimony for the AEG lawsuit Taunya Zilkie was forced to admit this had not been an “intervention” but that it had been an attempt to get money from MJ,

- Vegas event. Taunya says she and Randy went to see Michael for a business matter. Bodyguards did not open the gate so they waited until someone came in and they drove right behind them and parked at the front door and asked to see Michael. Bodyguards did not allow it, according to Taunya they were “belligerent and aggressive”. Randy later called Joe Jackson who came and was upset that the bodyguards was coming between brothers. Taunya says they wanted to leave but bodyguards was blocking their way. They let them out a few hours later. Taunya is asked about to explain the “business matter” they went to see Michael for, she replies “it was a financial matter”. She makes it clear that visit was not an intervention attempt. AEG asks “is it about Michael Jackson owing Randy Jackson money?” Taunya refuses to answer.

After reports in the media about interventions, Katherine and four of his brothers deny Jackson these have taken place, People 9/10/2007

LOS ANGELES — Michael Jackson’s mother and four of his brothers have formed a united front in dismissing reports of his alleged dependency on pain killers and alcohol.

An open letter to the media, signed by Katherine Jackson and sons Tito, Jermaine, Marlon and Jackie, responds to what the family views as “troubling and heinous” rumors about Michael.

An attempted drug intervention and takeover of Michael’s business affairs are among the rumors denied by the family in the letter, which also takes aim at quoted “sources” believed to be making false claims for profit.

A particular target of the letter is People magazine, which has published a story on Michael and his children in their Sept. 17 issue.

A rep for People magazine provided the following statement to “Access Hollywood”:

“We stand by our story. Throughout the process we gave Mr. Jackson’s rep, Raymone Bain, the opportunity to respond and we reported her comments.”

Below is the text of the letter, dated Sept. 7 and issued by Jackson’s rep, Raymone K. Bain:

“People magazine has followed other publications in reporting untrue and inaccurate information about Michael Jackson and the Jackson family. Of these widely reported rumors, what has become the most troubling and heinous, is that my son, and our brother, Michael Jackson, is dependent on painkillers and alcohol.

“People, and other news organizations, have quoted ‘sources’ indicating that our family has attempted a drug intervention, and engaged in an effort to take over his business affairs, because of this alleged drug and alcohol usage.

“We categorically deny ever planning, participating in, or having knowledge of any kind of intervention, whatsoever. We strongly believe that these ‘sources’ and others, no matter who they are, are making these defamatory, inaccurate, and untrue claims for monetary reasons.

“Michael Jackson, and the Jackson family, has endured years of false accusations and misrepresentations.
“It is time for these unfair and hurtful rumors, for profit, to end.
“Thank you.”

Janet Jackson tells Larry King she’s working on getting her brother Michael to join a possible family reunion tour, 29 February 2008

JANET JACKSON has dismissed reports she is shunning a JACKSON 5 reunion tour, insisting she’s the one urging her siblings to go ahead with the gigs. The R+B star was alleged to have refused a support slot on the group’s planned world tour, which her older brother Jermaine Jackson is trying to organise. But she claims she’d be delighted to hit the road with her family, if only the rest of the legendary band would agree to the tour. She tells Larry King, “I would love to (tour with them). I get my brothers on the phone all the time. I’m the biggest fan of the Jacksons, The Jackson 5. “I have conference calls all the time pushing them to do a huge tour. I tell them if they did, I would love to open for them.” I have never opened for anyone. My very first tour, I was the headline. It was a nation(wide) tour. I never opened for anyone. It would be an honour.” But when asked which of her siblings is refraining from the comeback tour, she refuses to confirm reports it’s Michael, coyly adding: “They would love to, but one of them is on the fence. You have to respect that. He’s worked very hard at his solo career. I don’t know. Maybe he’ll come around. Still kind of working on him.”

Leonard Rowe speaks about a possible Jackson family tour featuring Michael, November 15 2007

Leonard Rowe: The possibility of a Jackson family tour: “His brothers are ready. Janet is ready. But the motor of that car that makes the car run, isn’t just yet. … In April of this year, I flew out to Las Vegas and met with them all and he told me, ‘Let’s look at ’08.’ We wanted to go this year, but [Michael] said it would take a lot of preparation. He didn’t say ‘no.’ “

Jermaine Jackson speaks about a Jackson family tour featuring Michael, 26 November 2007

Jermaine told BBC 6 Music that concert dates have been discussed and could take place “sometime in 2008″.

“Michael will be involved,” the singer and guitarist confirmed. “We feel we have to do it one more time. We owe that to the fans and to the public.

“There’s been so much going on, getting over all the hurdles that we all were faced with during Michael’s trial,” he told the station’s The Music Week programme.

“But we are stronger than ever. I’m gonna say thank you, thank you, thank you so much to all the fans and the supporters of my family all over Europe, all over the UK especially, who came out to show their love and their support.”

Jermaine, who sang lead vocals for the band until his younger brother took over, added that Michael would definitely be part of the reunion.

“He has to be,” he said. “He is a Jackson.”

“He was at the meetings. Michael will be involved.”

The star also hinted at new material, saying that the band was “in the studio at the moment”.

Jermaine again confirms that the family will reunite for a tour including Michael, October 30 2008

The Jackson 5 will reunite in 2009, brother Jermaine Jackson confirmed today (Oct. 29) at a TV industry function in Sydney.

“This has been a long time coming for the Jackson family to get back together,” he told the Australian Associated Press.

“It is just the timing, so what we’ve been doing is working on the music and all the logistics. It is going to be more like a family affair, Janet’s going to open and, of course, the original Jackson 5 … Michael, Randy and the whole family … We’re in the studio, we’re planning on being out there next year.”

The Jacksons received a lifetime achievement award from BMI in early September in Los Angeles, but brother Marlon made no secret of his displeasure with Michael’s absence at the ceremony.

Asked where Jackson was, he told the Associated Press, “I don’t know. I think he’s in Egypt riding a camel or something.”

Michael issues a statement denying he will take part in any Jackson 5 reunion, October 31 2008

Michael Jackson has issued a statement saying he will not participate in a Jackson 5 reunion in 2009.

“My brothers and sisters have my full love and support, and we’ve certainly shared many great experiences, but at this time I have no plans to record or tour with them,” he said. “I am now in the studio developing new and exciting projects that I look forward to sharing with my fans in concert soon.”

Joe Jackson calls Roger Friedman to tell them that he and Leonard Rowe are trying to take over MJ’s TII shows, March 26th 2009

This year, on March 26th 2009, Jackson himself called me to say he wanted to take over the just announced concerts at the O2 Arena because only he and his partner Leonard Rowe would know how to run them. Shortly after that, Jackson and Rowe threw in with another concert promoter. The latter man filed suit against Michael to get a cut of his AEG Live contract.

April 3 2009


Paris’ birthday, Joe shows up with Leonard Rowe to see MJ after not having seen him for the last 2 years, he does not bring a gift for Paris, is there to speak about the concerts.

April 14, 2009


Joe and Leonard visited Michael carrying the letter of direction drafted by Rowe’s attorney on March 25. The date was changed to April 14 and Michael signed the letter but changed it to emphasize Rowe would only be overseeing his financial matters with regard to the O2 tour.

Joe and the family were still trying to get Michael to also include them in the tour, 15th May 2009 (already using Propofol)

We’ve learned there was a secret meeting yesterday at the Beverly Hills Hotel, where Michael Jackson made it clear — he will not perform with Janet and the Jackson 5; and the dude who organized the concert tour tells us he will sue them.

As we first reported, Jackson’s manager signed a deal on behalf of M.J. to perform with his sis and bros at Cowboy Stadium in Arlington, Texas in 2010. Part of the deal — that he not sign any other concert deal for 18 months. But then Jackson went and signed up for his London concerts which are scheduled to begin in July.

The company that organized the family concert — AllGood Entertainment — got Michael, daddy Joe Jackson and several others in a room yesterday at the Bev Hills Hotel. Joe tried to convince Michael that the family tour should go on, but Michael wouldn’t budge because it would have aired on pay-per-view and M.J. said he doesn’t like pay-per-view! The meeting was heated and no one agreed to anything.

Patrick Allocco of AllGood Entertainment tells us he’s going to sue Jackson and his family next week.

Stay tuned.

UPDATE: Patrick Allocco has resubmitted his offer for MJ to perform with the Jackson 5 and Janet without the pay-per-view. For this one night event, MJ would be paid $3million, Janet $1mil, and the brothers would get $500,000 to split.

Allocco is making this his last and final offer. If Jackson refuses, AllGood Entertainment will proceed with suing him and his family.

MJ fires Leonard Rowe (and Joe Jackson) 20th May 2009

http://youtoobrutus.wordpress.com/2013/08/12/michael-jackson-rehab-interventions-family-concert-tour

 

[Kerry Hennigan]

Thanks so much for this post... it's very illuminating, and I feel increasingly dismayed at the behaviour of Michael's family members, who can't seem to do anything successfully unless he's involved! (Or is it just that few others want to do anything involving them without Michael involved!) Whatever the case, once again they have proven to me that most of them are dependent on Michael for generating a decent income.

 

[jaydom7]

sad... and during April and May, Katherine was right there in these business meetings not giving a hoot about her son's health and appearance. Did Katherine mention in the meeting with Randy Phillips anything about MJ's health, mental state and physical appearance where he seems thinner than before? was that a concern to her at all?

 

[twinklEE]

Asked where Jackson was, he told the Associated Press, “I don’t know. I think he’s in Egypt riding a camel or something.

jealousy at it's best, I remember how us fans were discussing this and many other quotes from them at that time.
Thank you for making this thread, I still have the video of Janet jackson saying ''one is on the fence.. but we're working on him/it'' to Larry King all of them were dependent on Michael.

 

[Bubs]

Thanks very much of this thread :bow:

"If Jackson is not desperately hooked on drugs, then what about all those panic-ridden stories that ran in the supermarket tabloids just a few weeks ago? Speculation is that some members of Jackson’s family who feel left out or left back since Michael split the U.S. may be selling stories to make money."

We know those family members who needed money, and what is the easiest way to get it? Sell as story of MJ to tabloid.

"Jack Wishna states he never saw any drug use but it was his family coming back into his life that brought back “weirdness”, Vegas businessman and dealer worked with MJ for 7 months from December 2006-mid 2007"

I undersign this with JW. It seems to me that family was the source of all weirdness that was surrounding MJ.
Pity that MJ was too nice to throw them under the bus by telling media it was his family behind most of the crap.

"Raymone Bain refuted the idea there’d been any intervention by his family, stating his family had only seen him to ask him about a reunion tour, February 2007
Concert promote Leonard Rowe stated that he had visited Michael with the family in February and April of 2007 in an attempt to have him tour with them and that they had been angry with Jackson for not agreeing"

So this was LV intervention:scratch:
Now I understand Janet's nasty talk toward MJ and all the drug talk. She seems to be as much vidictive as Randy and others.
Janet was mad to MJ for not agreeing going on tour with them, as LR said she was cold and forgotten. She wanted to get back to limelight as much as other siblings and relied on MJ to get her back in the game. She would have stayed forgotten, but she too got new lease of life when MJ died, so she started doing rounds on entertainment business.

"His final words to us were, ‘Maybe next year in 2008 I will be ready.’ To me this wasn’t bad because I would need the time to prepare for a tour of this magnitude, but Janet needed to work that summer. She had committed the month of July to her band, and she needed to fulfill that commitment. I could tell that Michael was becoming irritable and we decided to leave."

Did Janet pay band costs from her own pocket and that got her so bitter towards MJ?


“Because there’s a lot of money involved, there’s a bunch of schmucks in there,” Jackson said. “It’s the entertainment world, full of thieves and crooks. That’s not new. Everybody knows that.” But during breaks in the trial, Jackson says he was being pressured to sign off on a multimillion-dollar financing deal by Don Stabler, an associate brought in by brother Randy, his go-to guy on financial matters during much of his career. "

Randy brought in this Stabler crook and Jermaine brought in Tohme. Both of them brought in a man who was going to take Mike to the cleaners.

"Janet Jackson tells Larry King she’s working on getting her brother Michael to join a possible family reunion tour, 29 February 2008"

So Janet was still begging MJ to do the tour with siblings, a year later when she aske LR to ask MJ. Was she running out of money or why she was in desparate need to tour? Why couldn't open to her brothers even if MJ didn't want to participate> Was her royal highness too high profile to open J4, but it was different if she was opening to MJ?


Btw, is there similar information about the older intervention - family reunion incidents?

 

[jaydom7]

I always wondered why Janet didn't agree to be the opening act for the recent Unity tour with the brothers. Does anyone know why she didn't since she was so willing to open for the brothers back in 2007-08?

 

[somewhereinthedark]

billyworld99, Thank you SOOOO much for posting this info. You confirmed basically EVERYTHING that I have been saying about this family. I really hope that you post this on other MJ forums AND spread it on twitter, FaceBook and other social media. The MEDIA needs to know what this family is about and just what is the REAL reason for this AEG lawsuit. Again, thank you so much for your research and hard work.

 

[somewhereinthedark]

Thank you for posting this info. It would be nice I you posted this on other MJ forums and on social media.

 

[somewhereinthedark]

Why did my post disappear?

 

[Petrarose]

Now we know why they made such a noise to prevent Taunya from being deposed. She let them know that it was not an intervention. I guess AEG will not play that part of hers because Randy's help them more.

 

[Mneme]

Hello billyworld99

Maybe you should add to your dateline in #1 this:


The Jacksons Deny Any Involvement With Planned Jackson 5 Reunion Show in Texas With Brother Michael & Sister Janet

Beverly Hills, CA, May 15, 2009 — In an official statement issued today The Jacksons (Jackie, Tito, Jermaine, Marlon and Randy Jackson) have denied they were in any way involved with a proposed Jackson 5 reunion concert in Texas on July 3rd claimed this week by New Jersey concert promoters AllGood Entertainment.

According to The Jackson’s manager, Danny O’Donovan, the original members of the Jackson 5, and younger brother, Randy, who later joined Michael and his older brothers performing as The Jacksons, were never approached about participating in the purported Texas concert event with Michael and sister, Janet.

The Jacksons have said they will support Michael in fighting any legal action brought by AllGood Entertainment with regard to the promoter’s claim about a July 3rd concert in Texas Stadium. O’Donovan said “There is absolutely no merit in this claim, and we had no knowledge of any contract with anyone, for a so-called family tour reunion. In fact, The Jacksons were never even approached about it and no offer was ever made to them.”

All of the Jackson brothers are thrilled that Michael is returning to the live stage this summer and are totally in support of his historic 50 concert run at London’s O2 Arena. They eagerly look forward to seeing and enjoying his “This Is It!” concert event.
Source:http://www.mjjcommunity.com/index.ph...temid=99999999


The link to mjjc old and it is now for MJ Lyrics. (maybe Ivy knows how to find is the original now?)

But I mean this press-statement from Michael's brothers is important because it it's date is 05.15., 2009 what means:
It is one day after the family celebration (05.14.) an at the same day as the meeting at Beverly-Hills-Hotel with Michael / AEG / Allocco / Joe-Katherine-Rowe (05.15.)

 

[somewhereinthedark]

Hello billyworld99

Maybe you should add to your dateline in #1 this:


The Jacksons Deny Any Involvement With Planned Jackson 5 Reunion Show in Texas With Brother Michael & Sister Janet

Beverly Hills, CA, May 15, 2009 — In an official statement issued today The Jacksons (Jackie, Tito, Jermaine, Marlon and Randy Jackson) have denied they were in any way involved with a proposed Jackson 5 reunion concert in Texas on July 3rd claimed this week by New Jersey concert promoters AllGood Entertainment.

According to The Jackson’s manager, Danny O’Donovan, the original members of the Jackson 5, and younger brother, Randy, who later joined Michael and his older brothers performing as The Jacksons, were never approached about participating in the purported Texas concert event with Michael and sister, Janet.

The Jacksons have said they will support Michael in fighting any legal action brought by AllGood Entertainment with regard to the promoter’s claim about a July 3rd concert in Texas Stadium. O’Donovan said “There is absolutely no merit in this claim, and we had no knowledge of any contract with anyone, for a so-called family tour reunion. In fact, The Jacksons were never even approached about it and no offer was ever made to them.”

All of the Jackson brothers are thrilled that Michael is returning to the live stage this summer and are totally in support of his historic 50 concert run at London’s O2 Arena. They eagerly look forward to seeing and enjoying his “This Is It!” concert event.
Source:http://www.mjjcommunity.com/index.ph...temid=99999999


The link to mjjc old and it is now for MJ Lyrics. (maybe Ivy knows how to find is the original now?)

But I mean this press-statement from Michael's brothers is important because it it's date is 05.15., 2009 what means:
It is one day after the family celebration (05.14.) an at the same day as the meeting at Beverly-Hills-Hotel with Michael / AEG / Allocco / Joe-Katherine-Rowe (05.15.)

Thank you for adding this info. Just one more reason to add to the fact that these so-called 'interventions" were really BLACKMAIL to try and FORCE Michael to do a tour with them. Brooke Shields said at one time that Michael's family hurt him as much or more than anyone else. At the time, I didn't believe her. NOW, I can see that she was telling the truth.

 

[Petrarose]

Hello billyworld99

Maybe you should add to your dateline in #1 this:


The Jacksons Deny Any Involvement With Planned Jackson 5 Reunion Show in Texas With Brother Michael & Sister Janet

Beverly Hills, CA, May 15, 2009 — In an official statement issued today The Jacksons (Jackie, Tito, Jermaine, Marlon and Randy Jackson) have denied they were in any way involved with a proposed Jackson 5 reunion concert in Texas on July 3rd claimed this week by New Jersey concert promoters AllGood Entertainment.

According to The Jackson’s manager, Danny O’Donovan, the original members of the Jackson 5, and younger brother, Randy, who later joined Michael and his older brothers performing as The Jacksons, were never approached about participating in the purported Texas concert event with Michael and sister, Janet.

The Jacksons have said they will support Michael in fighting any legal action brought by AllGood Entertainment with regard to the promoter’s claim about a July 3rd concert in Texas Stadium. O’Donovan said “There is absolutely no merit in this claim, and we had no knowledge of any contract with anyone, for a so-called family tour reunion. In fact, The Jacksons were never even approached about it and no offer was ever made to them.”

All of the Jackson brothers are thrilled that Michael is returning to the live stage this summer and are totally in support of his historic 50 concert run at London’s O2 Arena. They eagerly look forward to seeing and enjoying his “This Is It!” concert event.
Source:http://www.mjjcommunity.com/index.ph...temid=99999999


The link to mjjc old and it is now for MJ Lyrics. (maybe Ivy knows how to find is the original now?)

But I mean this press-statement from Michael's brothers is important because it it's date is 05.15., 2009 what means:
It is one day after the family celebration (05.14.) an at the same day as the meeting at Beverly-Hills-Hotel with Michael / AEG / Allocco / Joe-Katherine-Rowe (05.15.)

Does this mean they decided to go with the one they thought will bring more money.

 

[Mneme]

Does this mean they decided to go with the one they thought will bring more money.

It is much moreworse then that, Petrarose:

Notice Jermaine:
The Jackson 5 will reunite in 2009, brother Jermaine Jackson confirmed today (Oct. 29, 2008) at a TV industry function in Sydney.
“This has been a long time coming for the Jackson family to get back together,” he told the Australian Associated Press.

Notice the AllGood Complain where we can read on Page 4:
"On or about October 21, 2008 Allocco flew to Las Vegas, Nevada for a meeting with Joe Jackson, the father of Jackson and the Jackson Family.
At the meeting, in which various person attended, Allocco spoke with Joe Jackson about his desire to promote a major concert featuring the return of Jackson and/or a Jackson Family reunion through his company.
Joe Jackson informed Allocco that he really hoped to produce the event...."

we have also: Joe on 21.October and Jermaine on 29. October, and I don't believe, Jermaine was meaning an another reunion then Joe.


And then, after Michael's dementi from 30. October where the rumors in the tabloids beginning.
But of course!, that's where pure accidents.

 

[billyworld99]

Hey Guys this research was done by lacienega. I just wanted to get the word out and share it with you guys.

 

[somewhereinthedark]

Hey Guys this research was done by lacienega. I just wanted to get the word out and share it with you guys.

Thank you to lacienega for the research and thank you for posting and bringing to our attention. Hopefully, this is spread EVERYWHERE. Thanks again, to both of you !!

 

[billyworld99]

Thanks very much of this thread :bow:

"
"So this was LV intervention:scratch:
Now I understand Janet's nasty talk toward MJ and all the drug talk. She seems to be as much vidictive as Randy and others.
Janet was mad to MJ for not agreeing going on tour with them, as LR said she was cold and forgotten. She wanted to get back to limelight as much as other siblings and relied on MJ to get her back in the game. She would have stayed forgotten, but she too got new lease of life when MJ died, so she started doing rounds on entertainment business.

Yep, this is true regarding all his siblings. The brothers, Rebbie, & Latoya (well she did a couple of reality tv shows but no really cared) were pretty much irrelevant in the entertainment industry during the last years of Michael's life. Janet ,after the superbowl fiasco, received huge blacklash plus she was an aging female pop star so her albums sales in the 2000's went into a decline. She didn't tour for the Damita Jo & 20 YO albums (didn't have sponsers backing?). She left her Virgin label & sign to Def Jam and came out with the record Discipline and her new record label barely promoted it and again she was resulted with poor sales from this album. Then there was the Rockwithu tour to promote the Discipline album but she wasn't selling out the arenas like she did in the 90's & that tour got cancelled and only grossed 13 million. She did Tyler Perry films but they're not really memorable to the mainstream audience. Actually Janet was making lots of appearances on music networks, magazine covers & awards event with Jermaine Dupri in the 2000's so it wasn't like she was forgotten I think the general public just didn't care. After Michael's passing she & the other siblings did jump to capitalise on the media attention that Michael's death was receiving. I don't really think his passing breathe that much life into his siblings career but instead people started to focus on Michael's artistry, his impact, & genius. I think it was September 2009 that Janet released her Number Ones album but it only debuted at #2o on the Billboard charts and the sales wasn't that great. She released two new songs Nothing & Make You Move and they failed to make an impact on the main Billboard charts. Janet knew she couldn't sell out big arenas anymore so did a theatre tour and for pr stragety called it the up close & personal tour and that tour grossed 15 million. so Michael's passing didn't really breathe life back into her career where the public was in demand for anything Janet they are still indifferent but this is mostly b/c they are going crazy over Beyonce (who is the ultimate entertainer of her generation), Rihanna is dominating the Billboard charts, Then you have Katy Perry & Lady Gaga. The brothers's career certainly didn't get any boost since they have to cancel so many concert dates & those who attended the unity tour said lots of seats were empty, a far cry from touring with MJ in the 70's & 80's. They were suppose to record a new album but i don't think any record label want to invest in them. So many people are discovering or rediscovering who Michael was as an artist. He sold an estimated 150 million+ records since his passing, his video game sold 5 million units, The Immortal World Tour grossed over 300 million, MJONE has now sold out over 100 shows. Michael's influence is heard on the radio (Justin timberlake, Chris Borwn, Neyo etc), his music is played everyday on oldies & the mainstream radio stations plus he is referenced in alot of artists' songs & media headlines because Michael Jackson defined greatest and every artist strives to be that and the countless number of artists he inspired in all genres is amazing. Also I can't forget his fans who is carrying on his humantarian legacy with the charitable projects around the world. This is why Michael's family resent him becuase all that he achieved without them & they were/are smothered in his shadowed which is why they have no remorse in dragging his name through the mud for $$$

 

[somewhereinthedark]

Yep, this is true regarding all his siblings. The brothers, Rebbie, & Latoya (well she did a couple of reality tv shows but no really cared) were pretty much irrelevant in the entertainment industry during the last years of Michael's life. Janet ,after the superbowl fiasco, received huge blacklash plus she was an aging female pop star so her albums sales in the 2000's went into a decline. She didn't tour for the Damita Jo & 20 YO albums (didn't have sponsers backing?). She left her Virgin label & sign to Def Jam and came out with the record Discipline and her new record label barely promoted it and again she was resulted with poor sales from this album. Then there was the Rockwithu tour to promote the Discipline album but she wasn't selling out the arenas like she did in the 90's & that tour got cancelled and only grossed 13 million. She did Tyler Perry films but they're not really memorable to the mainstream audience. Actually Janet was making lots of appearances on music networks, magazine covers & awards event with Jermaine Dupri in the 2000's so it wasn't like she was forgotten I think the general public just didn't care. After Michael's passing she & the other siblings did jump to capitalise on the media attention that Michael's death was receiving. I don't really think his passing breathe that much life into his siblings career but instead people started to focus on Michael's artistry, his impact, & genius. I think it was September 2009 that Janet released her Number Ones album but it only debuted at #2o on the Billboard charts and the sales wasn't that great. She released two new songs Nothing & Make You Move and they failed to make an impact on the main Billboard charts. Janet knew she couldn't sell out big arenas anymore so did a theatre tour and for pr stragety called it the up close & personal tour and that tour grossed 15 million. so Michael's passing didn't really breathe life back into her career where the public was in demand for anything Janet they are still indifferent but this is mostly b/c they are going crazy over Beyonce (who is the ultimate entertainer of her generation), Rihanna is dominating the Billboard charts, Then you have Katy Perry & Lady Gaga. The brothers's career certainly didn't get any boost since they have to cancel so many concert dates & those who attended the unity tour said lots of seats were empty, a far cry from touring with MJ in the 70's & 80's. They were suppose to record a new album but i don't think any record label want to invest in them. So many people are discovering or rediscovering who Michael was as an artist. He sold an estimated 150 million+ records since his passing, his video game sold 5 million units, The Immortal World Tour grossed over 300 million, MJONE has now sold out over 100 shows. Michael's influence is heard on the radio (Justin timberlake, Chris Borwn, Neyo etc), his music is played everyday on oldies & the mainstream radio stations plus he is referenced in alot of artists' songs & media headlines because Michael Jackson defined greatest and every artist strives to be that and the countless number of artists he inspired in all genres is amazing. Also I can't forget his fans who is carrying on his humantarian legacy with the charitable projects around the world. This is why Michael's family resent him becuase all that he achieved without them & they were/are smothered in his shadowed which is why they have no remorse in dragging his name through the mud for $$$

Very interesting post. You are correct in your assertion that this family tried to capitalize on Michael's passing. I think Janet AND her fans felt that since Michael was no longer here, she would be THE Jackson. That didn't happen. I remember watching Family Feud after Michael was murdered and one of the questions to the contestants was >"Which Jackson will never be as big as Michael?" I was VERY surprised at the #1 answer. I said surely it's going to be LaToya or his brothers. However, the #1 answer from the people who were surveyed was-JANET. It just goes to show you that although she and her fans WANT her to be as big as Michael, she will never be. THIS is the root of HER jealousy and the way that she was acted since Michael is no longer here. Sadly,it is blatant and it is obvious.

 

[twinklEE]

Very interesting post. You are correct in your assertion that this family tried to capitalize on Michael's passing. I think Janet AND her fans felt that since Michael was no longer here, she would be THE Jackson. That didn't happen. I remember watching Family Feud after Michael was murdered and one of the questions to the contestants was >"Which Jackson will never be as big as Michael?" I was VERY surprised at the #1 answer. I said surely it's going to be LaToya or his brothers. However, the #1 answer from the people who were surveyed was-JANET. It just goes to show you that although she and her fans WANT her to be as big as Michael, she will never be. THIS is the root of HER jealousy and the way that she was acted since Michael is no longer here. It is blatant and it is obvious.

Butt showing, boob showing and sex talk only brings you this far especially when you have no real talent to rely on, and your body starts resembling yeast dough.

 

[8701girl]

remember watching Family Feud after Michael was murdered and one of the questions to the contestants was >"Which Jackson will never be as big as Michael?" I was VERY surprised at the #1 answer. I said surely it's going to be LaToya or his brothers. However, the #1 answer from the people who were surveyed was-JANET. It just goes to show you that although she and her fans WANT her to be as big as Michael, she will never be. THIS is the root of HER jealousy and the way that she was acted since Michael is no longer here. Sadly,it is blatant and it is obvious.

I wouldve said all of them

 

[Ashtanga]

Looking at everything that has been happening since June 25, I struggle to believe that everything that happened and is happening is real. I wish it was all just a nightmare... and I wake up and everything would be OK with Michael why everything went just a nightmare. But it is not.... All this is devastating. *big sigh*

 

[jamba]

They hounded him--it's so sad. I truly believe this betrayal was worse than anything AEG did b/c this was his own family--as they keep saying--FAMILY. When family becomes those sharks, charlatans, and imposters (as MJ said so eloquently), that is the worst. I love the title Lacienega uses for her blog: et tu brutus. These were the words of Julius Ceasar when he was stabbed by his close friend Brutus. When even the friends and family betray you, it is extremely hard to handle, and MJ already had so much to deal with--his financial issues and the upcoming tour.

And how can anybody think it's somehow wrong or being a 'hater' to find this behavior repellent and wrong?

I love how firm MJ was--but it's too bad he said "maybe in 08" when they descended on him in Las Vegas in 2/07. That left a small opening that was exploited. He was ganged-up on by the whole group of family, LR, and AllGood. That is one hell of a lot of pressure. When they went to LV he was alone--he didn't expect it--and as LR says even though he said No in a nice way, they stayed for 2 hours trying to persuade him. Sorry, that is manipulation and abuse when you won't take no for an answer.

As MJ (in his eloquent way) put it when discussing the family with Glenda: "Tight-knit, my ass."

Can't believe Janet thought her band was more important than her brother.

 

[Petrarose]

I still can't figure out what possessed Michael to accept Jo and Lowe back in his business actions. He knew how they were. He had already kicked his dad out of his deals in the past. That pressure that day must have been really strong to make him change his mind.

 

[Mneme]

I love the title Lacienega uses for her blog: et tu brutus. These were the words of Julius Ceasar when he was stabbed by his close friend Brutus. When even the friends and family betray you, it is extremely hard to handle,

The comparison with Brutus is very appropriatly especially because Brutus was more then an friend: Even he was Caesar's adopted son, feeded and supported by Caesar since he was a child.
And, nevertheless, Brutus' motive was NOT self-interest or envy or jealousy or greediness.

For me is Michael the modern Joseph. Joseph, whom his seven brothers sells to be an slave in Egypth. Joseph, whom his seven brothers take away his coat because this coat was beautyful. Joseph, always friendly and peacefully and loveable...
(1. Mose 37)

 

[Snow White luvs Peter Pan]

Those Jackson fans should read this thread to realize for themselves how those vultures haunted Michael in his last years and none of them gave a f*ck he was trying to heal from the trial. Heartbreaking and outrageous indeed.

 

[Snow White luvs Peter Pan]

I'm proud Michael IS THE MOST talented from them but at the same time I wished they had more success on their own to not live off him the way they're still doing it. I bet it'd had saved him many worries and troubles.

 

[virginia_woolf]

I'm proud Michael IS THE MOST talented from them but at the same time I wished they had more success on their own to not live off him the way they're still doing it. I bet it'd had saved him many worries and troubles.

I believe they were able to achieve moderate success on their own if they wanted to but the problem is they wanted Michael's level of success. Just listen do Jermiane.

 

[Snow White luvs Peter Pan]

^^They didn't even achieved that, they didn't work in ages. And if Janet had such success in the 90's it was because media and her record label inflated her.

 

[billyworld99]

^^They didn't even achieved that, they didn't work in ages. And if Janet had such success in the 90's it was because media and her record label inflated her.

in the 90's Janet implied that Michael was jealous of her success, felt that he used her regarding the Scream duet, accused him of lowering her vocals on Scream so it didn't seem like she out sung him etc

One of those interviews is the Vibe Magazine 1998 she seemed very hostile towards MJ, especially what's happening now. She tweeted to Randy that she has his back, the granny gate incident, signing that letter along with he siblings to get the executors removed

 

[HIStory]

in the 90's Janet implied that Michael was jealous of her success, felt that he used her regarding the Scream duet, accused him of lowering her vocals on Scream so it didn't seem like she out sung him etc

LOL @ the delusion of Janet that she could ever outsing Michael...

I was never a fan of Janet's music but until granny gate I thought she was one of the people in the family who was close to Michael and who had his back. Boy, I was wrong! That was all image - at least since the second half of the 90s.

I agree with Snow White that Janet's career and image was overinflated by the media and her label in the 90s. I always felt so even when I still had respect for her. I felt that the US media wanted to pit her against Michael and they deliberately inflated her just to stick it to Michael. However, an inflated bubble can last only that long. No one checks for Janet any more.