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Autopsy: Jackson Was Healthy Before Overdose

THOMAS WATKINS, Associated Press Writer
POSTED: 12:14 pm EDT October 1, 2009
UPDATED: 12:26 pm EDT October 1, 2009


LOS ANGELES -- An autopsy report obtained by The Associated Press shows Michael Jackson was not the sickly skeleton of a man portrayed by tabloids. The report says Jackson's arms were covered with punctures, his face and neck were scarred and he had tattooed eyebrows and lips.

But overall he was a fairly healthy 50-year-old. Jackson's 136 pounds were in the acceptable range for a 5-foot-9 man. And his heart was strong. He had some arthritis and his lungs were damaged, which may have left him short of breath. But the report said none of those health issues were life-threatening and that the pop star died from the potent anesthetic his personal physician gave him to sleep.

Copyright 2009 by The Associated Press.
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It should read as portrayed by the Lying media in general. I knew it was murder.

PS

Lucky for AEG it was an overdose. How clever of them to know before hand.
 
I thought MJ's height is 5'11" Well, some fans who saw him before he died describe him as looking like a skeleton. I'm not hustlin the This Is Not It face book page but they have other ideas and seem to think that this report comes out at an interesting time.
 
HemlockDevi said:
It should read as portrayed by the Lying media in general. I knew it was murder.

PS

Lucky for AEG it was an overdose. How clever of them to know before hand.
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Is this the official statement or another report coming from one person and not supported by the L.A. Coroner's office?
 
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1622785/20091001/jackson_michael.jhtml


I am getting very suspicious about this part of autopsy. “The autopsy report detailed the heroic efforts employed to try and revive Jackson, including chest bruising and cracked ribs from CPR and the use of a mechanical device called a balloon pump that was inserted into Jackson's heart to try to restart it, according to the AP. “
Ok,I talked to one doctor, my friend and she said chest bruising and cracked ribs from CPR the thing she has never seen nad it is something unusual. She said it cannot be that bad.
According to the information we have, doctors were professionals. I just wonder if these bruises and broken rib not from CPR? I believe that MJ died at night, long time before they called 911. I do not want to think that he suffered before they injected him but these bruises and broken ribs bother me now.
 
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Asedora said:
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1622785/20091001/jackson_michael.jhtml

I am getting very suspicious about this part of autopsy. “The autopsy report detailed the heroic efforts employed to try and revive Jackson, including chest bruising and cracked ribs from CPR and the use of a mechanical device called a balloon pump that was inserted into Jackson's heart to try to restart it, according to the AP. “
Ok,I talked to one doctor, my friend and she said chest bruising and cracked ribs from CPR the thing she has never seen nad it is something unusual. She said it cannot be that bad.
According to the information we have, doctors were professionals. I just wonder if these bruises and broken rib not from CPR? I believe that MJ died at night, long time before they called 911. I do not want to think that he suffered before they injected him but these bruises and broken ribs bother me now.
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I'm suspicious of that part of the autopsy, as well, and that bothers me, too. I hate the thought that he might have been attacked, and suffered. I'm also suspicious of his weight, as given in the leaked autopsy. Because it was not an official report, I fear it could have been altered.

Here is what Randy Phillips, of AEG, is on record as saying:

http://a.abcnews.com...=7990611&page=2

While the team insists that they saw no sign that Jackson was using drugs, Phillips said worries mounted that Jackson did not have the energy to endure. His weight showed signs of wear and tear.

"Kenny [Ortega] used to cut his chicken breast for him and feed him," Phillips said. "I actually, in the last week, brought in someone whose sole purpose it was to remind him to eat. That was my biggest concern, was his weight."
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Phillips himself said that he was worried about Michael's weight! It's highly unusual to HIRE someone to feed a person! But yet the leaked autopsy portion suggests his weight was normal for his height. I also have concern about the height given. Michael's height was given as five-eleven, at the time of his arrest. I've also seen it given as five-ten, but never five-nine. Debbie Rowe is five-nine, and Michael was taller, as can be seen in photos. Why this is important is if the report was altered to make him seem ok. . by giving his height as less than it really was, and his weight as more, it would seem normal for his height. See what I mean? So, the above statement, in red, seems to confirm what the followers have been saying all-along about Michael's weight-loss. This is very contrary to subsequent statements by AEG that Michael was just fine. One doesn't hire someone just to see that Michael ATE, if he were just fine?

If height/weight are "altered" in the leaked report, I wonder what ELSE was altered? We still don't know what Michael's condition really was. . .
 
Currently I am talking a college course in First Aid - Responding to Emergencies through the American Red Cross.

This course includes but not limited to CPR for infants thru adults...

Hence, will be certified through the American Red Cross in Emergency / First Aid and CPR.

Yes...one can get broken rib (s)/bone (s) from adminestering CPR, (chest compressions) as well from an AED Automatic External Defibulators (electrical shock) for the heart.

:angel:Knowledge IS Growth...Education IS The Key~~~
 
Victoria83 said:
I'm suspicious of that part of the autopsy, as well, and that bothers me, too. I hate the thought that he might have been attacked, and suffered. I'm also suspicious of his weight, as given in the leaked autopsy. Because it was not an official report, I fear it could have been altered.

Here is what Randy Phillips, of AEG, is on record as saying:

http://a.abcnews.com...=7990611&page=2

While the team insists that they saw no sign that Jackson was using drugs, Phillips said worries mounted that Jackson did not have the energy to endure. His weight showed signs of wear and tear.

"Kenny [Ortega] used to cut his chicken breast for him and feed him," Phillips said. "I actually, in the last week, brought in someone whose sole purpose it was to remind him to eat. That was my biggest concern, was his weight."
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Phillips himself said that he was worried about Michael's weight! It's highly unusual to HIRE someone to feed a person! But yet the leaked autopsy portion suggests his weight was normal for his height. I also have concern about the height given. Michael's height was given as five-eleven, at the time of his arrest. I've also seen it given as five-ten, but never five-nine. Debbie Rowe is five-nine, and Michael was taller, as can be seen in photos. Why this is important is if the report was altered to make him seem ok. . by giving his height as less than it really was, and his weight as more, it would seem normal for his height. See what I mean? So, the above statement, in red, seems to confirm what the followers have been saying all-along about Michael's weight-loss. This is very contrary to subsequent statements by AEG that Michael was just fine. One doesn't hire someone just to see that Michael ATE, if he were just fine?

If height/weight are "altered" in the leaked report, I wonder what ELSE was altered? We still don't know what Michael's condition really was. . .
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We can be agree at some points. This is nice.

1.Anyways, if autopsy is fake, he still was killed .At this case I assume he was under somebody’s bad influence and control. Somebody abused him putting on drugs to make him hyper. He was losing weight, then he suffered from insomnia. As a result, he died from an injection of powerful drug.

2.If autopsy is pretty accurate, he was killed anyways because his major organs were in OK condition.

This is another mystery of Michael Jackson. It looks like no matter what we say and read, it appears to be that he was murdered.
It is absolutely heartbreaking. I cannot take it.


More about Phillips:He's 50 but he's going to dance his ass off," says the confident, quick-talking Randy Phillips, chief executive of AEG Live and promoter of acts from Britney Spears and Prince
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...s-promoter-is-making-all-the-right-moves.html

He doesn't look to me like he is nice person either.
 
Now the MAIN question is about TIME OF DEATH. This is what LAPD has to concentrate on. If MJ died long time before Murray called 911 it could mean that MJ was attacked and bruises were not from CPR. Because fire places at the house were on it is sigh that somebody tried to keep his body warm as longer as possible. One thing I know for sure, that ppl who killed Michael are not stupid.
There are something I want to include here from the professional website so we can look more into details and to compare facts we know with the information below:
1.To calculate time of death specialist use formula: 98.4° - rectal temp) / 1.5 = hours since death
2. Unclothed bodies cool faster than clothed ones.
3. The greater the surface area that is exposed, the faster the body cools.( they moved the body dr, Murray room?)
4. Bodies cool faster in humid, cool weather, than in warm, dry weather.( fire places at the house were on)
5. The thinner you are, the faster you cool. Fat provides insulation against temperature change. (Mike was very thin)

6. Dead bodies bruise if they haven’t been dead long. It is possible, by the way, to determine whether a bruise was inflicted before or after death, but it takes a microscopic examination. A bruise inflicted after death will contain the normal count of white blood cells; no more. But a bruise inflicted during life will contain an abnormally high number of white cells. Why? Because white cells move to the site of an injury to start the healing process. But only while you're alive. Once you die, that's it for healing.

Anybody did a microscopic expertise for these bruises? We do not know. But this is very important question now.
Still, I cannot trust TMZ and other tabloids autopsy reports because of their bad reputation. According to their report MJ weight was 112 pounds and his stomach was filled by different drugs. Another autopsy report which was on BBC showed a different picture.
We still have more questions than answers.
 
Yeah (to the above). Notice that the leaked (and partial, and maybe altered) autopsy report doesn't list time-of-death?

I think that the fireplaces were blazing is significant, to make it seem that he died later than he really did. No doubt there was a cover-up (phone logs would reveal that there were several calls made, some of them lengthy). What is NOT known is if the doctor was just incredibly stupid, or if this was deliberate.

Add to all this the facts that:

The security were hired by AEG. They kept fans and family away from Michael.

Security was TRIPLED on the night he died, suggesting that this was a planned event.

Follower fans were so alarmed by Michael's condition (physical and emotional) that they gave him letters.

And on, and on. . . . .
 
When Tellem is not taking personal swipes at Jackson attorneys and supporters, they are pushing the envelope of professional ethics. Consider one of their prime acts as representatives for the prosecution: “In addition, Tellem used AP as a breaking news tool since the DA’s office had no budget for BusinessWire or other fast acting national distribution service. When a story needed telling, Tellem contacted AP, and they put it on the wire immediately.” But Tellem gets even bolder concerning their "mission" when they remind us that “On January 8, 2004, the DA requested a gag order, which remains in place. While this has reduced the number of calls, each time there is a court appearance, they begin again. An unexpected consequence of working with the DA were death threats from Jackson fans (these were turned over to the FBI).”

We are simply floored by the blurring of professional and ethical lines in the media. How are we to receive objective news from AP when Tellem uses it as its own little mouthpiece to spread the gospel of Sneddon? One would think that Tellem had the “budget” to use BusinessWire to accommodate their client. We are not simply arguing that they do not have the right but merely pointing out the blurring of ethical lines that could jeopardize news on any case or issue being reported objectively."

http://www.geocities.com/nickoblake/jackson4.htm

Hmm. At the very least, this tells us something about the integrity/reliability of AP. At the worst, this hints at another possible connection...
 
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There's no way Mike's weight was what they wrote in the report... And as many of you posted, there are a lot of things that don't add up. Maybe everything should be included in the This is not it campaign, not just the testimonies...
 
PrincessMichaela said:
When Tellem is not taking personal swipes at Jackson attorneys and supporters, they are pushing the envelope of professional ethics. Consider one of their prime acts as representatives for the prosecution: “In addition, Tellem used AP as a breaking news tool since the DA’s office had no budget for BusinessWire or other fast acting national distribution service. When a story needed telling, Tellem contacted AP, and they put it on the wire immediately.” But Tellem gets even bolder concerning their "mission" when they remind us that “On January 8, 2004, the DA requested a gag order, which remains in place. While this has reduced the number of calls, each time there is a court appearance, they begin again. An unexpected consequence of working with the DA were death threats from Jackson fans (these were turned over to the FBI).”

We are simply floored by the blurring of professional and ethical lines in the media. How are we to receive objective news from AP when Tellem uses it as its own little mouthpiece to spread the gospel of Sneddon? One would think that Tellem had the “budget” to use BusinessWire to accommodate their client. We are not simply arguing that they do not have the right but merely pointing out the blurring of ethical lines that could jeopardize news on any case or issue being reported objectively."

http://www.geocities.com/nickoblake/jackson4.htm

Hmm. At the very least, this tells us something about the integrity/reliability of AP. At the worst, this hints at another possible connection...
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This is the identical way they(Media) are covering his murder/"death".
Namely: ET, TMZ and LKL
 
Victoria83 said:
I'm suspicious of that part of the autopsy, as well, and that bothers me, too. I hate the thought that he might have been attacked, and suffered. I'm also suspicious of his weight, as given in the leaked autopsy. Because it was not an official report, I fear it could have been altered.

Here is what Randy Phillips, of AEG, is on record as saying:

http://a.abcnews.com...=7990611&page=2

While the team insists that they saw no sign that Jackson was using drugs, Phillips said worries mounted that Jackson did not have the energy to endure. His weight showed signs of wear and tear.

"Kenny [Ortega] used to cut his chicken breast for him and feed him," Phillips said. "I actually, in the last week, brought in someone whose sole purpose it was to remind him to eat. That was my biggest concern, was his weight."
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Phillips himself said that he was worried about Michael's weight! It's highly unusual to HIRE someone to feed a person! But yet the leaked autopsy portion suggests his weight was normal for his height. I also have concern about the height given. Michael's height was given as five-eleven, at the time of his arrest. I've also seen it given as five-ten, but never five-nine. Debbie Rowe is five-nine, and Michael was taller, as can be seen in photos. Why this is important is if the report was altered to make him seem ok. . by giving his height as less than it really was, and his weight as more, it would seem normal for his height. See what I mean? So, the above statement, in red, seems to confirm what the followers have been saying all-along about Michael's weight-loss. This is very contrary to subsequent statements by AEG that Michael was just fine. One doesn't hire someone just to see that Michael ATE, if he were just fine?

If height/weight are "altered" in the leaked report, I wonder what ELSE was altered? We still don't know what Michael's condition really was. . .
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:bugeyed :no: The quote about Phillips & Kenny O. is disturbing. Somebody who is eating well doesn't need somebody to make sure they are eating. The leaked report says MJ is 5'9? I don't remember that, but I don't remember if it said 5'10 or 5'11 either. Could one lose 2 inches in 4 years because of age?


Victoria83 said:
Yeah (to the above). Notice that the leaked (and partial, and maybe altered) autopsy report doesn't list time-of-death?

I think that the fireplaces were blazing is significant, to make it seem that he died later than he really did. No doubt there was a cover-up (phone logs would reveal that there were several calls made, some of them lengthy). What is NOT known is if the doctor was just incredibly stupid, or if this was deliberate.

Add to all this the facts that:

The security were hired by AEG. They kept fans and family away from Michael.

Security was TRIPLED on the night he died, suggesting that this was a planned event.

Follower fans were so alarmed by Michael's condition (physical and emotional) that they gave him letters.

And on, and on. . . . .
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:( Has AEG explained why the security tripled on the night he died or has no media outlet the guts to ask them?

Admittedly, AP is not that great. They can write some very biased articles (not opinion pieces) and I've seen them.
 
PrincessMichaela said:
When Tellem is not taking personal swipes at Jackson attorneys and supporters, they are pushing the envelope of professional ethics. Consider one of their prime acts as representatives for the prosecution: “In addition, Tellem used AP as a breaking news tool since the DA’s office had no budget for BusinessWire or other fast acting national distribution service. When a story needed telling, Tellem contacted AP, and they put it on the wire immediately.” But Tellem gets even bolder concerning their "mission" when they remind us that “On January 8, 2004, the DA requested a gag order, which remains in place. While this has reduced the number of calls, each time there is a court appearance, they begin again. An unexpected consequence of working with the DA were death threats from Jackson fans (these were turned over to the FBI).”

We are simply floored by the blurring of professional and ethical lines in the media. How are we to receive objective news from AP when Tellem uses it as its own little mouthpiece to spread the gospel of Sneddon? One would think that Tellem had the “budget” to use BusinessWire to accommodate their client. We are not simply arguing that they do not have the right but merely pointing out the blurring of ethical lines that could jeopardize news on any case or issue being reported objectively."

http://www.geocities.com/nickoblake/jackson4.htm

Hmm. At the very least, this tells us something about the integrity/reliability of AP. At the worst, this hints at another possible connection...
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Interesting. Thanks for posting.

HemlockDevi said:
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This is the identical way they(Media) are covering his murder/"death".
Namely: ET, TMZ and LKL
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I notice that certain articles still hang on to the drug addict label and/or the 'It's all his fault BS' and it is annoying the hell out of me. They are doing this crap on purpose because they want the public to think of MJ in a certain way.
 
I don`t believe that auotspy too! It must be fake, at least MJ was not so heavy!
Where did they get the info? No one know it. And why the official report is still not published? I heard that the Jacksons has got a copy of official report, is it true？
 
Victoria83 said:
Yeah (to the above). Notice that the leaked (and partial, and maybe altered) autopsy report doesn't list time-of-death?

I think that the fireplaces were blazing is significant, to make it seem that he died later than he really did. No doubt there was a cover-up (phone logs would reveal that there were several calls made, some of them lengthy). What is NOT known is if the doctor was just incredibly stupid, or if this was deliberate.

Add to all this the facts that:

The security were hired by AEG. They kept fans and family away from Michael.

Security was TRIPLED on the night he died, suggesting that this was a planned event.

How suspicious. Michael really wasn't doing anything on his own. And one more thing, why would Michael want to keep away his family at that point in time.....and as for the fans...it's not like they were climbing over his fences, right???? Now I can understand if they and the papz were desperate since Michael was to leave in a week.

It's too coincidental that so many things change either the night before Michael died or the actual day he did.

Heart problems from Michael and refusal to be taken to the hospital, triple the security, phone lines not working, missing cameras (where were the ones videotaping the people on the outside? unless they are talking about inside cameras if their were any...idk),........sounds like part of a big plan to me.
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I still don't understand how come there were no phones in the house. at first I thought Murray was making stuff up but now I learned there really were no phones...not that gives murray an excuse he did have his own cellphone
but I'd like to know why were there no phones in the house that's weird
 
that's stupid. why ONLY that house??? or is it other houses too??

no one would move to an area where they cant use a phone. they think we're idiots.
 
She said that during the interview with Greta Von Susterer.

Also, she tried to contact MJ that week after the June 21st phone

call while she was in the ER but couldn't reach him.
 
...and didn't the TINI fans say that MJ tried to call one of

them, but that something had happened that prevented

communication? So much for the age of technology.
 
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rainny said:
...and didn't the TINI fans say that MJ tried to call one of

them, but that something had happened that prevented

communication? So much for the age of technology.
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yup...they did state this......I am VERY curious as to WHY that call did not go through.....it is very suspicious in my book.......There are so many things about Murray's story that dont add up...we have gone over and over them all at one time or another....the thing that is bothering me now.....is Michael's bruised chest and broken ribs......why broken ribs for cpr....I have never heard of cpr given to such extreme that the patient gets broken ribs......also the first report from the coroner stated he saw no foul play on the body.....however does broken ribs constitute foul play???,,,,hmmm,,,I would say it does in my book.

EDIT....well i just did some research and it does state on a few sights that ribs can be broken because of cpr being administered....... because cpr places alot of pressure on the sternum........I dont know what to believe anymore.
 
yes the fans said that MJ tried to talk to them on the phone but the connection went off 4 or 5 times...although I don't think that had anything to do with the location because they were standing right in front of the house right? I think after MJ complained to fans and it went public the AEG people panicked and told the bodyguards to keep the fans away, I think they were indeed trying to isolate him with the purpose of controlling him
 
i just have one question. if there really were phone connection problems...was it only in THAT specific house??? because if it was, then that is quite suspicious.

maybe someone was messing with the phone lines or something else. idk.

and why would michael keep his fans away?? he LOVES his fans, unlike the papz.

yes the fans said that MJ tried to talk to them on the phone but the connection went off 4 or 5 times...although I don't think that had anything to do with the location because they were standing right in front of the house right? I think after MJ complained to fans and it went public the AEG people panicked and told the bodyguards to keep the fans away, I think they were indeed trying to isolate him with the purpose of controlling him
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instead of fixing the "problem" of the fans, they should've fixed the real PROBLEM of the broken phones!! idiots.

and wasn't AEG paying that house for Michael? that makes THEM responsible, that is if they did have something to do with the unworking phones in that specific house. but idk. it could've been just one person.

i just know that no working phones is wierd. i mean, michael had so much good phone connection far out there in neverland, but not in L.A.??
 
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no, what the fans were saying is that someone cut them off on purpose and that would not be hard to believe since MJ had been complaining to fans and it made headlines around the world putting AEG in a bad light
the point is if they were paying for the house and everything in MJ's life it looks like they were trying to control him - I'm not saying they killed him! but they did control him
Michael told someone a few weeks before he died that they had been "mean" to him, I can imagine they were not very happy when they heard what he was telling fans. he also said he wanted to cancel a few shows...but now we can only speculate of it's true or not, but I believe it's true
 
Michael's number was changed too some time within the

last few days, according to Deepak Chopra. That's why

he couldn't return the call to Michael.
 
snowhite said:
the point is if they were paying for the house and everything in MJ's life it looks like they were trying to control him - I'm not saying they killed him! but they did control him
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you said they tried to control him. there is a reason and motive behind that. they would not just do it for no reason.

something else also came up in my mind. prince said michael only had two needle marks on his entire body, but when was the last time prince actually saw his father with his shirt off and stuff?

i'd like to know. and cant the doctors tell how fresh a needle mark is?

i was also wondering if michael was forced to go to the doctor every week or two as a request from his doctor.

and i heard the autopsy results found him clean of illegal drugs, and also showed him to be healthy, IF i remember correctly. let's say if the autopsy results did find him healthy, then what was all the "aliases" for with all those drugs, because clearly he'd be a major addict with all those drugs that had to be obtained through so many aliases.
 
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I think that was made up by the press or it was misinterpreted - about the aliases

and rainny - his phone number was changing constantly that was nothing new

one more thing - didn't Michael say when he couldn't eat they had to go intravenously? I'm thinking maybe he wasn't using propofol all the time, maybe he was being hydrated/fed with the help of the IV
and about the oygen tanks, didn't MJ use some kind of oxygen therapy to help him with his voice? they did discover he had problems with his lungs which must've made it harder for him to sing and dance sometimes...I'm not saying he didn't use propofol but people have been mentioning for ex. how MJ has been using IV's in the past but they said the purpose was drug abuse, they didn't say it had to do with his eating habits things get misinterpreted and twisted like this all the time and the truth gets lost...I pray this police investigation uncovers the real truth and I hope there will be a trial for the sake of MJ's reputation
 
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