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Since this thread got deleted when the forum went down yesterday, I'm reposting what fans said. This is directly taken from the new campaign website
http://www.this-is-not-it.com
There's also a forum for fans to get organized by city:
http://this-is-not-it.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general
Paisley777
This is NOT It campaign - REAL THREAD
I'm starting a new thread regarding the THIS IS NOT IT campaign because the previous thread is SO MISGUIDED/INACCURATE and we don't want everyone to carry on reading that thread and being fed wrong ideas. To be fair and as to not create more confusion, please read this in its entirety before asking questions or criticising.
1. KAREN FAYE did not start the This Is NOT it campaign.
It was formed by "following" fans of Michael. It is something we have been researching and formulating to share since Michael passed.
We are Diana, Marika, Manu, Sandy, Sara, Talitha, Jill, Samantha, Talin, Laura, Fiesal, Irena...We are a group of fans that were extremely blessed to be around Michael a lot through many years, he often confessed his true feelings to us when he felt trapped by others around him. He asked for our help in creating campaigns to support him against Sony-Mottolla, allegations, etc. This is our last gift to Michael. We think it is what he would have wanted, to speak the truth.
2. The campaign is NOT NOT NOT about boycotting the movie or guilting anyone into not seeing it. We know that would never work, there is such an immense amount of interest, and we can understand and appreciate that. All of the interest even works to our advantage in helping to generate attention to counter-act the LIES.
The campaign IS about trying to help reveal the TRUTH and encouraging people to watch the movie with a CRITICAL EYE and UNDERSTAND the movie will not portray the entire picture of Michael's condition and who was responsible for his NEGLECT. It is about EDUCATING his fans, the public, the media...and NOT let those who should have listened and cared for his condition (but chose instead to have gained from greed and profit) have the last word. We will not be silent while they attempt to clear their conscience through a biased movie.
3. Yes, we have given our testimonies/statements to the police, Michael's family and their attorney. We waited until we had done this to come forth publicly with this campaign. We felt that was the most appropriate action. This should answer the question as to why we have supposedly waited so long to speak out (although some of us actually have been since Marika's email leaked some time ago.)
4. In answer to those questioning why we are saying we were kept from Michael vs being able to get close enough to him to speak with him and give him letters: We were increasingly kept distanced from Michael in his last weeks by security, HOWEVER there were times when Michael specifically invited us to speak with him, or he asked that security bring certain fans to him (inside shops, rehearsals, at his house) and in these times when security could not deny us was when we were able to best speak to him & give letters.
5. The testimonies by Marika and Sandy are factual and not exaggerated, more will be posted soon by those of us who feel strong enough to speak publicly and share what was personal experiences and never expected to be made so public. We have no reason to lie, nothing to gain, no profit to realize. No one else in Michael's life can say that (sadly, not even his family, his children not included.)
6. We are aware there will SEEM as if there are some inconsistencies or contradictions between what we are saying and what will be shown in the movie. HOWEVER, this is largely our point - the movie will not portray the entire picture and we want the world to be very cognizant of that fact. Clearly they will show footage of Michael only at his best moments. Meanwhile, most of his days were filled with stress, fears and pain. This we know from MICHAEL'S WORDS and from seeing him DAILY. The movie you will see will be PREDOMINANTLY OF MICHAEL in the LAST 2 DAYS of rehearsals just before his death when Michael was trying to make a special effort because he had been confronted by Kenny/Randy/Travis regarding his condition and their unhappiness with his ability to consistently perform & missing rehearsals due to not feeling well, and their fears he would not be ready. Therefore, it will not be an accurate and entire picture of Michael and his condition in the few months and ultimately last weeks.
7. Despite the supposed leaked autopsy, I steadfastly believe that Michael weighed much less than 136lbs at the time of his death. Michael was taller than me, and as you can see in the last photo we took together three weeks before his death he was much skinnier than me, and he continued to lose weight. Michael was taller than me, and always more built than me but in his last weeks this was no longer the case. It is impossible that he weighed 136. I think I can safely speak for all of the "followers" that none of us believe he was "healthy" as this latest report claims. Karen Faye can also corroborate as she did indeed prepare Michael for his final resting. We spoke with her at the cemetery on this very day. She is in agreement that Michael weighed 108lbs.
8. We are working hard creating the campaign and website and pulling together all of the elements so it is ready for all fans to partake as soon as possible. For those who are criticising us for not answering everyone's myriad of questions on the facebook page or here on forums: we would need to spend all day here correcting those fans who have twisted what we've said, or assumed things that are not true but are now being believed as true by other fans because they assume it's fact after reading it here, etc. etc. etc. We choose to focus on the campaign for those who believe us and want to participate, instead of answering all of the nay-sayers and those who never have and probably never will believe us no matter what we say. That is a lost cause we do not want to be a part of.
9. We are not promoting conspiracy theories. We fully acknowledge Michael ultimately died from lethal doses of Propofol. We wholeheartedly blame Dr. Murray's gross negligence, HOWEVER, we are contending that ADDITIONAL CONTRIBUTING FACTORS AND NEGLECT such as his drastic weight loss, stress and fears, and the FAILURE of those around him to STOP the tour machine and HELP a man clearly in desperate NEED OF HELP, because they were blinded by their own-self interests.
10. To clear one untruth in the other thread - Michael's children were never at tour rehearsals with Michael. He wanted the shows to be a surprise for them. Yes they would sometimes accompany him to his doctor visits and of course shopping. But never to the tour rehearsals, where he spent much of his days. They were not with Michael 24/7, sadly, and I can imagine they missed him very much. He would very often try to make it home to put them to bed. This was Michael...
Love and hugs to everyone and especially those who have been so supportive on This Is Not It facebook page and our personal pages. We appreciate you. We all loved Michael. We should all love each other.
Love,
Sandy
http://www.this-is-not-it.com
There's also a forum for fans to get organized by city:
http://this-is-not-it.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general
Paisley777
This is NOT It campaign - REAL THREAD
I'm starting a new thread regarding the THIS IS NOT IT campaign because the previous thread is SO MISGUIDED/INACCURATE and we don't want everyone to carry on reading that thread and being fed wrong ideas. To be fair and as to not create more confusion, please read this in its entirety before asking questions or criticising.
1. KAREN FAYE did not start the This Is NOT it campaign.
It was formed by "following" fans of Michael. It is something we have been researching and formulating to share since Michael passed.
We are Diana, Marika, Manu, Sandy, Sara, Talitha, Jill, Samantha, Talin, Laura, Fiesal, Irena...We are a group of fans that were extremely blessed to be around Michael a lot through many years, he often confessed his true feelings to us when he felt trapped by others around him. He asked for our help in creating campaigns to support him against Sony-Mottolla, allegations, etc. This is our last gift to Michael. We think it is what he would have wanted, to speak the truth.
2. The campaign is NOT NOT NOT about boycotting the movie or guilting anyone into not seeing it. We know that would never work, there is such an immense amount of interest, and we can understand and appreciate that. All of the interest even works to our advantage in helping to generate attention to counter-act the LIES.
The campaign IS about trying to help reveal the TRUTH and encouraging people to watch the movie with a CRITICAL EYE and UNDERSTAND the movie will not portray the entire picture of Michael's condition and who was responsible for his NEGLECT. It is about EDUCATING his fans, the public, the media...and NOT let those who should have listened and cared for his condition (but chose instead to have gained from greed and profit) have the last word. We will not be silent while they attempt to clear their conscience through a biased movie.
3. Yes, we have given our testimonies/statements to the police, Michael's family and their attorney. We waited until we had done this to come forth publicly with this campaign. We felt that was the most appropriate action. This should answer the question as to why we have supposedly waited so long to speak out (although some of us actually have been since Marika's email leaked some time ago.)
4. In answer to those questioning why we are saying we were kept from Michael vs being able to get close enough to him to speak with him and give him letters: We were increasingly kept distanced from Michael in his last weeks by security, HOWEVER there were times when Michael specifically invited us to speak with him, or he asked that security bring certain fans to him (inside shops, rehearsals, at his house) and in these times when security could not deny us was when we were able to best speak to him & give letters.
5. The testimonies by Marika and Sandy are factual and not exaggerated, more will be posted soon by those of us who feel strong enough to speak publicly and share what was personal experiences and never expected to be made so public. We have no reason to lie, nothing to gain, no profit to realize. No one else in Michael's life can say that (sadly, not even his family, his children not included.)
6. We are aware there will SEEM as if there are some inconsistencies or contradictions between what we are saying and what will be shown in the movie. HOWEVER, this is largely our point - the movie will not portray the entire picture and we want the world to be very cognizant of that fact. Clearly they will show footage of Michael only at his best moments. Meanwhile, most of his days were filled with stress, fears and pain. This we know from MICHAEL'S WORDS and from seeing him DAILY. The movie you will see will be PREDOMINANTLY OF MICHAEL in the LAST 2 DAYS of rehearsals just before his death when Michael was trying to make a special effort because he had been confronted by Kenny/Randy/Travis regarding his condition and their unhappiness with his ability to consistently perform & missing rehearsals due to not feeling well, and their fears he would not be ready. Therefore, it will not be an accurate and entire picture of Michael and his condition in the few months and ultimately last weeks.
7. Despite the supposed leaked autopsy, I steadfastly believe that Michael weighed much less than 136lbs at the time of his death. Michael was taller than me, and as you can see in the last photo we took together three weeks before his death he was much skinnier than me, and he continued to lose weight. Michael was taller than me, and always more built than me but in his last weeks this was no longer the case. It is impossible that he weighed 136. I think I can safely speak for all of the "followers" that none of us believe he was "healthy" as this latest report claims. Karen Faye can also corroborate as she did indeed prepare Michael for his final resting. We spoke with her at the cemetery on this very day. She is in agreement that Michael weighed 108lbs.
8. We are working hard creating the campaign and website and pulling together all of the elements so it is ready for all fans to partake as soon as possible. For those who are criticising us for not answering everyone's myriad of questions on the facebook page or here on forums: we would need to spend all day here correcting those fans who have twisted what we've said, or assumed things that are not true but are now being believed as true by other fans because they assume it's fact after reading it here, etc. etc. etc. We choose to focus on the campaign for those who believe us and want to participate, instead of answering all of the nay-sayers and those who never have and probably never will believe us no matter what we say. That is a lost cause we do not want to be a part of.
9. We are not promoting conspiracy theories. We fully acknowledge Michael ultimately died from lethal doses of Propofol. We wholeheartedly blame Dr. Murray's gross negligence, HOWEVER, we are contending that ADDITIONAL CONTRIBUTING FACTORS AND NEGLECT such as his drastic weight loss, stress and fears, and the FAILURE of those around him to STOP the tour machine and HELP a man clearly in desperate NEED OF HELP, because they were blinded by their own-self interests.
10. To clear one untruth in the other thread - Michael's children were never at tour rehearsals with Michael. He wanted the shows to be a surprise for them. Yes they would sometimes accompany him to his doctor visits and of course shopping. But never to the tour rehearsals, where he spent much of his days. They were not with Michael 24/7, sadly, and I can imagine they missed him very much. He would very often try to make it home to put them to bed. This was Michael...
Love and hugs to everyone and especially those who have been so supportive on This Is Not It facebook page and our personal pages. We appreciate you. We all loved Michael. We should all love each other.
Love,
Sandy
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