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Re: New war: media brainwashing unfolds full-scale, Richard Holbrooke was just beginning
arXter:
1) the problem of South-Ossetia raised even before Russia appeared as independent state, back in late 1980s;
2) if Russia would seriously, big way help South-Ossetia, then it long time would have military air planes, for example. Not so much help with that;
3) and, Russia could agree to include South-Ossetia as its territory starting from 1992 any day;
4) boycotts and et cetera on Georgia were not out of the blue but each time reaction to Georgia's actions.
5) initially Russia did not want anything from Saakashvili, aside of it keeping peace agreement as accorded before (contrary to goals that Saakashvili announced when coming to power, which needed peacekeepers being taken away and/or discredited). Lately, with Georgia aspiring to become NATO member, Russia started to want this would not happen for obvious reasons. However, this has nothing to do with current war since it was not Russian foreign minister who gave consultations to Mr.Saakashvili days before he ordered troops move to South-Ossetia, it was Ms.Rice. So how exactly we should put Russia in this concrete mess?
With this, Russia trying to stop the violence, where exactly can we blame the country, indeed? What should Russia do else in the story with Georgia, concretely?
However, at no case during recent years Russia done anything "imperialistic". I tracked all those suspicious cases all and even dissected number of them here in General Discussion, showing articles, for example, describing situation with gas supply to Ukraine. Whole articles consisted of direct lies and/or untold truths.
At the same time, as I said above, no side at war can come out of it "in white", and I do not trust Russian media, as well as any else. And, of course, I said here many times earlier that there is wide area of critique of Kremlin, but in areas that are not interesting for use in international politics so western media do not write about it. Instead, they write about things are outright brainwashing. Either if we take this case with war in Georgia, or other "imperialistic" moves.
For starters, during last fifteen years Russia never broke a UNO resolution/international law/signed contract of supply, no matter how good it could seem to do so. I will not disclose details since there are so many cases that this may concern to. So ask details for anything, if you want.
But keeping Russia as "eternal evil" has many advantages in policy, so there almost no thing that western people could read about the country went without turning upside-down.
Thankfully, no country aside of western world sees Russia as "evil" since people are not get brainwashed there for years. And, on the contrary, most American people are still sure that Mr.Clinton's administration did nothing illegitimate internationally, while it broke as many international laws as Mr.Bush's one. People just do not know.
The same as most people in Russia do not know about internal policy things that are crimes of Kremlin regime. But those crimes relate to internal doings/undoings, not international "imperialistic" things.
arXter:
1) the problem of South-Ossetia raised even before Russia appeared as independent state, back in late 1980s;
2) if Russia would seriously, big way help South-Ossetia, then it long time would have military air planes, for example. Not so much help with that;
3) and, Russia could agree to include South-Ossetia as its territory starting from 1992 any day;
4) boycotts and et cetera on Georgia were not out of the blue but each time reaction to Georgia's actions.
5) initially Russia did not want anything from Saakashvili, aside of it keeping peace agreement as accorded before (contrary to goals that Saakashvili announced when coming to power, which needed peacekeepers being taken away and/or discredited). Lately, with Georgia aspiring to become NATO member, Russia started to want this would not happen for obvious reasons. However, this has nothing to do with current war since it was not Russian foreign minister who gave consultations to Mr.Saakashvili days before he ordered troops move to South-Ossetia, it was Ms.Rice. So how exactly we should put Russia in this concrete mess?
With this, Russia trying to stop the violence, where exactly can we blame the country, indeed? What should Russia do else in the story with Georgia, concretely?
With that rhetoric everything that was "reported" about Russia was brainwashing during latest years. Of course, every country wants to be as successful as possible.
However, at no case during recent years Russia done anything "imperialistic". I tracked all those suspicious cases all and even dissected number of them here in General Discussion, showing articles, for example, describing situation with gas supply to Ukraine. Whole articles consisted of direct lies and/or untold truths.
At the same time, as I said above, no side at war can come out of it "in white", and I do not trust Russian media, as well as any else. And, of course, I said here many times earlier that there is wide area of critique of Kremlin, but in areas that are not interesting for use in international politics so western media do not write about it. Instead, they write about things are outright brainwashing. Either if we take this case with war in Georgia, or other "imperialistic" moves.
For starters, during last fifteen years Russia never broke a UNO resolution/international law/signed contract of supply, no matter how good it could seem to do so. I will not disclose details since there are so many cases that this may concern to. So ask details for anything, if you want.
But keeping Russia as "eternal evil" has many advantages in policy, so there almost no thing that western people could read about the country went without turning upside-down.
Thankfully, no country aside of western world sees Russia as "evil" since people are not get brainwashed there for years. And, on the contrary, most American people are still sure that Mr.Clinton's administration did nothing illegitimate internationally, while it broke as many international laws as Mr.Bush's one. People just do not know.
The same as most people in Russia do not know about internal policy things that are crimes of Kremlin regime. But those crimes relate to internal doings/undoings, not international "imperialistic" things.
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